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Do we have a politics section

Because I strongly disagree with fascism but I see where you're all going with the monarchy and I have a suggestion

It's a political thwory

Theory*

Can I help you my friend

Defend why you support fascism because as it stands from definition fascism is very bad.

Y'all sedevacantists?

I'm not saying being a sedevacantist is bad the church allows for people to question the validity of the pope during any age

And I'm asking you to defend it

Fascism is total centralism and deprivation of freedom/authority in it's most malevolent state. It opposes human nature and allows the state to control the market regardless of the will of the people. Looking at it as a political theory shows it does not follow the common good

You must take into consider human concupiscence which is where most people fail ; that was where Karl Marx's BIGGEST flaw was

Also Latin mass is great but I'm not a fan of Low Mass

High mass is brilliant

I'm really not a fan, I've been to a dominican use low mass

Anyone gonna respond to my reasoning against fascism

But fascism doesn't offer freedom or virtue?

Free will is very important

God gave it to us for a specific reason

And there's better political ideologies out there

Have you actually studied political theory or read up about it

My friend (roommate until a few weeks ago) is studying political theory and psychology and he's gone very in depth in almost all major political theories and philosophers. We both agreed that fascism in it's essence is evil

Communism will never work but in it's essence isn't evil. Once applied it will ALWAYS become corrupt quickly and fail miserably

However fascism is a lack of freedom

God gave us free will. It was a gift

To say freedom is bad or you'd rather not have it is disrespectful towards God

And we should promote not stealing and arrest those who steal

And teach them right versus wrong

But to control the market, rule as a minority over the majority? It's not right

But it's not a stepping stone

You forget peoples concupiscence

That is the naivety of socialists

They exclaim they could do a better job than half the toffs out there

But that's pride

To say the power doesn't have a chance to corrupt you is pride and to say there wouldn't be someone behind you waiting to take you out and take your place is naive

Plus dynastic rule over time will always fail

Without Gods intervention

But you want the most efficient political structure that allows liberty but not anarchy or totalitarian societies

Do me a favour, read the nichomachean ethics by Aristotle, then the City of God by st. Augustine and the republic by Plato

I don't believe in true democracy it's stupid

Look into the neo-platonic renewals

You'll find they're much better than fascism

I am a blunt person forgive me if I sound condescending

But that stepping stone is dangerous

And a pure monarchy won't work

Not in our development in society

Yes, I do realise

I live in Ireland.

In the last 40 years this country has gone from devoutly catholic

To the biggest liberal cesspool in the world

I walk the streets of dublin seeing Satanist art on the walls, I see immodesty and immorality. I see LGBT flags everywhere and socialists in our government

But from my experience of politics and my knowledge in it I can tell you fascism will not nor ever work and a monarchy (especially anything with dynastic succession) will not work. It's too corruptible and doesn't have good safeguards

When?

To which it fell apart after only a few decades

Literally late 1800's it was established

And fell hardly 40-50 years later

But the monarchy won't work you need a philosopher king who is not of dynastic heir

As i said, read aristotle, Plato and augustine and you will learn

Anyway goodnight it's 12:09am and I need to be up early

Well aren't you condescending. You completely take up what I say wrong. I DON'T want anarchy. I want a governmental style like Plato's republic, but renewed to include an extended hierarchy and a judicial system. There's *limited* democracy, very limited but you don't elect any old toff to a position, in order to get a position in any governmental department you must be educated in that area. Also any governmental system can uphold values, it just depends how efficiently they can hold onto them and the consequences and ability to revert once it goes wrong. There is a reason I said go read aristotle, plato and augustine.

Don't assume what I say and don't be rude. If you act like that again you can expect a lack of response

Monarchical rule was brilliant for it's time but in the current age of technology and social standings there's no chance we could go back to something like that. You must be realistic

I stress again *you must be realistic*

That's why I'm going back to a renewal of platos republic. It's because it works and it's been implemented all over the world.

Also to answer your first question, fascism deprives liberty. Because the market is controlled by the government and it's a centralised government you don't have true *liberty*

And when I'm talking about freedom I'm also talking about freedom to practice virtue

If it's forced upon you, that's not true virtue.

Gosh mom you're so mean

I'm going to my room >:c

I'm not a liberal and I'm not an anarchist. And you misinterpret what I say. I don't want "yet another democracy" I have laid out my views which are similar to Plato's republic. And you don't care about my "pretentious theories" oh really? The foundation for all societies? You don't know politics. You're just like Plato, democracy had failed therefore instead of thinking completely rationally and coming up with political theories to replace it you get angry and lash out without proper logical reasoning

I'm done arguing with you, you don't understand politics and you don't understand God's gift of free will.

We fight against sin and we outlaw sin but in the end we shouldn't control peoples thoughts

But I'm done. I'm done you are helpless, no more arguements from me

I am a missionary and dedicating my life to God don't you dare even think of calling me watery.

You have no love in you

I pray for you

You are the hypocrite. You are not a follower of God.

Begone with you I am done

He accused me of so much I don't agree with

Supporting sodomy and idolizing celebrities

Just a small few

Yes

I shared this document with the admin I'll share it with you too

It's a small old document stating my political thwory

Theory*

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tDaTTYHPt4YiOxQ_3q5Y9pY3U8LRZLjDsGP6S34yWWk/edit?usp=drivesdk

It's rough around the edges

Give the document a read and tell me what you think

Also one thing to consider is society has to change from the individual up

Not the government down

Oh? I'm interested, go on ntr

Also yes the education system would need a complete reform

But the philosopher king would have to be moral and wise

Over educated in an area

The ministers would need the education

It's a minimum necessity

Oh no, what I'm saying is it filters out people who know nothing in the area

But as I said

Things need to change from the individual up

I will be dropping in and out as I'm doing stuff but I appreciate any insight and knowledge