Message from @Byzas
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in contrast to the presence of nogs, amerindians, and mestizos
But the "white race" is composite, made up of various europoor races
And various groups that could be considered white by some have been rejected by huwite groups like the KKK; see Irishmen and Italians
something being a composite of several other things doesn't eliminate its existence as a thing
And yes, in the past the KKK didn't like Irish or Italians
the KKK also didn't like Catholics
Italians were considered white for naturalization when it came to immigration
Irish weren't considered white to justify the Anglo's treatment of them
they did the same thing int he world wars, claim that the germans weren't white
But these things have no bearing on what white is today
White is a thing
White people exist
And it is a defined thing
I think a big issue with the argument against the existence of the white race is that it atomizes the existence of people. The white identity is made from a common birthplace and common struggle, despite the disputed white people had and will have with each other, it is a rational decision for them to act as a collective unit under stress when they are attacked as such.
Jews do it because they know white people are their biggest opponent
Jews do it because they hate God too
and Whites are Christians
whether the individual white says they are or not
all White people are Christians
But you can't really call it a race if it's made up of multiple races. Then it's not one race. Can't really use the same word for different things in the same sentence, you know?
All the different races you might be mentioning are closer to each other than anything else
there's also the cultural phenomenon of the white race
formed by Christendom, birthed in Europe
so despite any differences they might ahve between themselves
they are more akin to each other than any group outside the white race
In europe they break down the various groups aswell, don't give them an inch honestly
the White Race exists
but I'm an Amerimutt so keep that in mind
Well these various ethnicities come from the same place, the Aryan (which is a scientific definition) race originated in southern Russia and spread west and east from there. A race isn’t just a biological combination but also combined experience which is why the combined experience of the white race forms the identity that is being developed.
It would make more sense to call it some sort of European race but even then there are numerous races in Europe, I don't think the word works
the "White Race" is just a term used to describe people of European ancestry
Aryan would be an actually good definition but there’s some negative connotation to that word, sadly.
It includes native born Europeans, Afrikaners, Americans, etc.
What are the scientific counterparts to Aryan? As in the other people groups at the time
If your mother is Evropa, fellow white people are your ethnic kinsmen
Also am I correct in assuming Aryan == Indo-European
Aryan as in the origin of the indo-European.
The other groups besides Aryan within the Caucasian subgroup would be Semitic and Hamitic. I should also correct myself and say that Aryan in the way I’m using it means a common origin in the indo-European peoples.
So are you equating Aryan with Japheth then?
In that case why not call it Japhetic
I’m fine with that use in Christian circles.