Message from @Byzas

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2018-08-15 23:55:14 UTC  

For america it makes sense ye

2018-08-15 23:55:24 UTC  

hence how the term came first to be used in America

2018-08-15 23:55:33 UTC  

in contrast to the presence of nogs, amerindians, and mestizos

2018-08-15 23:55:44 UTC  

But the "white race" is composite, made up of various europoor races
And various groups that could be considered white by some have been rejected by huwite groups like the KKK; see Irishmen and Italians

2018-08-15 23:56:13 UTC  

something being a composite of several other things doesn't eliminate its existence as a thing

2018-08-15 23:56:24 UTC  

And yes, in the past the KKK didn't like Irish or Italians

2018-08-15 23:56:28 UTC  

the KKK also didn't like Catholics

2018-08-15 23:56:45 UTC  

Italians were considered white for naturalization when it came to immigration

2018-08-15 23:56:54 UTC  

Irish weren't considered white to justify the Anglo's treatment of them

2018-08-15 23:57:03 UTC  

they did the same thing int he world wars, claim that the germans weren't white

2018-08-15 23:57:17 UTC  

But these things have no bearing on what white is today

2018-08-15 23:57:19 UTC  

White is a thing

2018-08-15 23:57:21 UTC  

White people exist

2018-08-15 23:57:32 UTC  

And it is a defined thing

2018-08-15 23:59:48 UTC  

I think a big issue with the argument against the existence of the white race is that it atomizes the existence of people. The white identity is made from a common birthplace and common struggle, despite the disputed white people had and will have with each other, it is a rational decision for them to act as a collective unit under stress when they are attacked as such.

2018-08-16 00:00:50 UTC  

Jews do it because they know white people are their biggest opponent

2018-08-16 00:01:07 UTC  

Jews do it because they hate God too

2018-08-16 00:01:18 UTC  

and Whites are Christians

2018-08-16 00:01:24 UTC  

whether the individual white says they are or not

2018-08-16 00:01:27 UTC  

all White people are Christians

2018-08-16 00:01:33 UTC  

But you can't really call it a race if it's made up of multiple races. Then it's not one race. Can't really use the same word for different things in the same sentence, you know?

2018-08-16 00:01:55 UTC  

All the different races you might be mentioning are closer to each other than anything else

2018-08-16 00:01:57 UTC  

I'll identify as white but there is no "white race"

2018-08-16 00:02:12 UTC  

there's also the cultural phenomenon of the white race

2018-08-16 00:02:20 UTC  

formed by Christendom, birthed in Europe

2018-08-16 00:02:29 UTC  

so despite any differences they might ahve between themselves

2018-08-16 00:02:38 UTC  

they are more akin to each other than any group outside the white race

2018-08-16 00:02:42 UTC  

In europe they break down the various groups aswell, don't give them an inch honestly

2018-08-16 00:02:44 UTC  

the White Race exists

2018-08-16 00:02:55 UTC  

but I'm an Amerimutt so keep that in mind

2018-08-16 00:03:05 UTC  

Well these various ethnicities come from the same place, the Aryan (which is a scientific definition) race originated in southern Russia and spread west and east from there. A race isn’t just a biological combination but also combined experience which is why the combined experience of the white race forms the identity that is being developed.

2018-08-16 00:03:11 UTC  

It would make more sense to call it some sort of European race but even then there are numerous races in Europe, I don't think the word works

2018-08-16 00:03:32 UTC  

the "White Race" is just a term used to describe people of European ancestry

2018-08-16 00:03:39 UTC  

Aryan would be an actually good definition but there’s some negative connotation to that word, sadly.

2018-08-16 00:03:43 UTC  

It includes native born Europeans, Afrikaners, Americans, etc.

2018-08-16 00:04:11 UTC  

What are the scientific counterparts to Aryan? As in the other people groups at the time

2018-08-16 00:04:13 UTC  

If your mother is Evropa, fellow white people are your ethnic kinsmen

2018-08-16 00:04:26 UTC  

Also am I correct in assuming Aryan == Indo-European

2018-08-16 00:04:41 UTC  

Aryan as in the origin of the indo-European.

2018-08-16 00:05:50 UTC  

The other groups besides Aryan within the Caucasian subgroup would be Semitic and Hamitic. I should also correct myself and say that Aryan in the way I’m using it means a common origin in the indo-European peoples.

2018-08-16 00:06:15 UTC  

So are you equating Aryan with Japheth then?