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Not sure. I do remember them screwing up at some point but I dont remember what
Doom was always pretty good.
I mean it's about a Catholic marine killing demons.
@Daniil so what do you think is gonna happen to goarch if the EP goes full schismatic and gives autocephaly to the Ukraine?
Why exactly is everyone so assblasted about the concept of Ukraine having a non-Russian jurisdiction?
I'm not memeing here
Outside of Russian imperialism it puzzles me
Well the long and short of it is that this isn't based on any sort of theological basis. This is just an appeasement to geopolitical powers. Ukraine right now is being pozzed af by NATO and granting autocephally will open the floodgates to corruption . And this is all done under the guise of friendship and ecumenism
Simply put, the EP has no jurisdiction on Russia any more than Antioch has on Alexandria for example
I kind of see the need for it to be honest but as you said on a political level
I don't see any real return of Ukraine to Russian culture
They wouldn't be engaged in a desperate fight against a superpower if they had any desire to return
Full disclosure on my part though uhhhhh I have friends who were in Azov and Pravyi
So perhaps my perception is tainted both by that and my hatred of Duginism
Please feel free to ping me in responses as I have like 6 hours now to sleep before a 9 hour shift
(If you ping me I see it tomorrow)
Hi
>Russian imperialism
If China tore cascadia and half of the midwest out of USA, kept propping up broken democracies and oligarchs that sell off their country's assets for pennies and whenever things go bad just do a revolution (color or armed), would you consider the desire to retake that land as "imperialism"?
@Smackface regardless on how you feel on the Ukraine/Russia situation, Bartholomew has overstepped his boundaries and wants to commune with outright schismatics for (((ecumenism)))
Yea, bart's off his rocker. All that CIA support won't buy him the approval of other patriarchs, not just Russian. The "ecumenical" council of Crete is the proof of that.
One can only hope
So I live under a Dwayne Johnson so forgive me, but what did bart do?
Is it about the 2nd marriage for priests thing
It's about Ukraine
Bart wants to install a patriarch for Ukraine effectively usurping the Russian patriarch's authority. And he is giving the privilege to schismatic who want autocephally purely because of political tension between Russia and Ukraine @
Wait a minute. Does Ukraine want their own Patriarch?
I thought due to the autocephalous nature of Orthodox churches, Constantinople doesn't get to exercise such authority like that?
It sounds to me like a situation where autocephaly for a church is only recognized by 1 other church
Indeed, thus has been roundly condemned not just Russia
Yeah I understand why the rest of the patriarchs would not be happy
And it would be bad enough had it just been only between patriarchs but take a look at this
REEE
Yeah this is some pozz shit
That's John McCain and there is the would be Ukraine patriarch
Yeah fuck Bart
Thing is I am thinking bout joining a church that is under Constantinople's jurisdiction
Welp
I mean I'm already in one and besides we are all still one holy Catholic and apostolic church
Hopefully Bart will be removed and the See of Constantinople will have a real patriarch