Message from @Byzas

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2018-10-11 12:07:57 UTC  

Why would you genuflect, then stand?

2018-10-11 12:08:40 UTC  

What you are receiving is due reverence, as such you shouldn't stand until after you've partaken in the Eucharist.

2018-10-11 13:27:56 UTC  

Not supposed to prostrate on the Lord's day tbqfwymf

2018-10-11 13:40:31 UTC  

Byzantines just receive standing.

2018-10-11 13:41:16 UTC  

I understand the fuss about receiving in the hand, but I think it's perfectly possible to be reverent while standing.

2018-10-11 13:41:28 UTC  

If it wasn't, we wouldn't stand throughout the entire liturgy.

2018-10-11 13:50:31 UTC  

Prostration is not kneeling

2018-10-11 13:51:39 UTC  

Yes it is

2018-10-11 13:51:41 UTC  

A mass entirely stood or a mix of standing and kneeling would be the way forward.

2018-10-11 13:51:56 UTC  

Prostration includes bowing, kneeling, and flat on the ground

2018-10-11 13:55:09 UTC  

^

2018-10-11 14:00:28 UTC  

Some bowing is acceptable at times during the liturgy but kneeling generally isn't supposed to be happening

2018-10-11 14:00:53 UTC  

Although Greeks tend to kneel and do other Roman Catholic things, while claiming to have done them first

2018-10-11 14:01:33 UTC  

I wonder if there's any way you can research to find out who's right...?

2018-10-11 14:07:50 UTC  

The canons

2018-10-11 14:07:55 UTC  

We must read the canons

2018-10-11 14:12:47 UTC  

I feel like "we must read the canons" could be used a newspaper comic punchline.

2018-10-11 14:13:00 UTC  

But yes, it would appear reading is necessary, here.

2018-10-11 18:19:06 UTC  
2018-10-11 18:29:20 UTC  

What's special about an "Old believer" church, exactly?

2018-10-11 19:46:49 UTC  

They're Russian Amish and most are schismativ

2018-10-11 19:47:03 UTC  

They've got great music, though.

2018-10-11 19:47:32 UTC  

I haven't heard any

2018-10-11 19:48:02 UTC  

Hold a minute, let me see if I can find some.

2018-10-11 19:51:44 UTC  

>when you can't find something on Youtube, but you know you can find it in your dad's collection of sheet music.

2018-10-11 19:53:03 UTC  

That's something, anyway.

2018-10-11 19:55:18 UTC  
2018-10-11 19:55:47 UTC  

I'm at work but will check them later

2018-10-11 20:03:12 UTC  

How does one schismatise from the Ordodogs church?

2018-10-11 20:04:08 UTC  

By schisming

2018-10-11 20:04:26 UTC  

Schism is breaking of communion

2018-10-11 20:04:42 UTC  

Old Believers broke away because they rejected reforms by a certain Nikon

2018-10-11 20:05:43 UTC  

The Orthodox like to say that their liturgy hasn't changed for hundreds and hundreds of years, but the existence of the Old Believers disproves that.

2018-10-11 20:08:39 UTC  

I am not an expert but as I recall, Nikon was actually trying to bring things more in line with the Byzantine rite

2018-10-11 20:08:47 UTC  

Which is barely changed

2018-10-11 20:10:31 UTC  

The Old Believers have the worst reason for schism I've ever seen.

2018-10-11 20:11:13 UTC  

Honestly, yes.

2018-10-11 20:11:25 UTC  

I can only imagine if every rite in the Catholic Church schismed because of basic liturgical reforms.

2018-10-11 20:12:30 UTC  

A dozen SSPX's.

2018-10-11 20:16:13 UTC  

Like I said they're basically Amish