Message from @Kike of Kaifeng

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2018-10-24 16:17:12 UTC  

It's practically impossible to "defend our values" with words alone.

2018-10-24 16:17:56 UTC  

Our enemies never listen to 'words alone', is the thing.

2018-10-24 16:18:32 UTC  

The mass majority of the reason the Enlightenment won out was because it just flat-out ignored everyone who was against it.

2018-10-24 16:25:22 UTC  

My father was irreligious, even though he had seen dæmons before

2018-10-24 16:25:57 UTC  

His Christian friend in high school invited him, the English debate team captain and science club president, to take part in a debate event at church

2018-10-24 16:26:10 UTC  

And assigned him to argue against the existence of God

2018-10-24 16:26:27 UTC  

My father read Marx, Nietzsche, Freud, et al.

2018-10-24 16:26:36 UTC  

But of course he also had to read the Bible

2018-10-24 16:26:41 UTC  

And he read all of it

2018-10-24 16:27:16 UTC  

The word of God changed him, and by the time the debate began he already believed Jesus of Nazareth was the Lord of the worlds

2018-10-24 16:28:00 UTC  

He still won the debate, but only with what he knew were sophistical arguments without a true logical basis

2018-10-24 16:28:43 UTC  

This is why I have never been impressed with atheists who have the impression that only stupid people are Christian

2018-10-24 16:29:01 UTC  

My father went on to Caltech for undergrad and Berkeley for PhD

2018-10-24 16:29:52 UTC  

I will thank God if I can be as godly as he is, or more

2018-10-24 16:30:29 UTC  

It's through this convert to the true faith that I know the Lord today

2018-10-24 16:31:10 UTC  

He has brought me to worship the Lord every Lord's Day

2018-10-24 16:31:39 UTC  

He has taught me both orthodoxy and orthopraxy

2018-10-24 16:31:51 UTC  

He has encouraged me to learn the Scriptures

2018-10-24 16:32:26 UTC  

He has rejected what is popular but sinful

2018-10-24 16:32:44 UTC  

He has embraced what is unpopular but just and true

2018-10-24 16:33:11 UTC  

He has kept himself clean of sexual defilement

2018-10-24 16:34:23 UTC  

Praise God you have such a father!

2018-10-24 16:53:11 UTC  

@Daniil Oxford.

2018-10-24 16:55:07 UTC  

Neat

2018-10-24 16:55:21 UTC  

Ever thought of founding an official chapter?

2018-10-24 16:58:55 UTC  

Off-topic, but is the reason why the fantasy genre is so attractive is because people actually realize that modernity and modern values suck?

2018-10-24 16:59:21 UTC  

Some of it

2018-10-24 16:59:32 UTC  

When it is done well, yes

2018-10-24 17:01:05 UTC  

I remember how Gurge RR Mertins made Stannis as an example of why Medieval values were terrible, and why modern values based on social-contract theory were superior, but then everyone ended up loving Stannis and he got really butthurt about it.

2018-10-24 17:01:16 UTC  

John C Wright's young adult series is somewhat about this directly.... the elfs that secretly pull strings from the shadows have stolen meaning and hope from the world

2018-10-24 17:01:39 UTC  

It's not even with fantasy

2018-10-24 17:02:07 UTC  

Lol I love when that happens... Alan Moore was butthurt that people loved Rorschach

2018-10-24 17:02:20 UTC  

Oh yeahhhh.

2018-10-24 17:02:36 UTC  

Owlman was apparently the one that everyone was supposed to like, ahahahah

2018-10-24 17:03:33 UTC  

Soy owl

2018-10-24 17:03:44 UTC  

Like how Judge Dredd was made by a bunch of British degenerates to satirise "OY FASCISM BRUV" but then everybody ended up unironically loving Judge Dredd.

2018-10-24 17:04:19 UTC  

Btw Wright's ya series I mentioned is real good.... and has one segment I love bc it reminds me of all y'all crazy Catholics

2018-10-24 17:04:31 UTC  

I'll check it out

2018-10-24 17:04:33 UTC  

The hero is facing some monsters, including an evil wolf

2018-10-24 17:04:52 UTC  

The wolf hears he is a Christian, and laughs, and starts blaspheming

2018-10-24 17:05:41 UTC  

"When the disciples stole the body from the tomb, they dumped it unceremoniously in a field! None have tasted the flesh and blood of Christ but wolf and wolf alone!"