sorta @Byzas

Churches have everything to do with how they are born. That is what defines them

Otherwise people constantly make up excuses for a church or religion, like the mormons do. People are just so ashamed of how their church came to be that they try to do some damage control and try to avoid people focusing on it

whomst read guenon

Not for a while.

I just finished Reign of Quantity

Been having an absolutely great time reading him

Though at first he was extremely dry

I need to read Guenon

@Kike of Kaifeng yo mulan avatars

I highly recommend Guenon

His writing is a lot of what helped lead Fr Seraphim Rose to begome

One part being that Guenon highly emphasised returning to the most Orthodox form of a religion in any tradition

So he went to Russia to begome and was inspired by the holy spirit to graduate top in his class in seminary despite not knowing russian when he started

Dude is a genius

Didn't Guenon die as a sufi muslim though

Yes

yup

its the muslim equivalent of gnosticism

I was talking about father seraphim rose in my last two sentences

Fr Seraphim Rose begame and was a genius, Guenon was also a genius but was a sufi muslim like Elijah said

In which way is sufism the muslim equivalent of gnosticism?

I've heard the same about Sufism, haven't heard exactly how
They call Allah the great dancer and have some kind of dance prayer though
And it's not a denomination of Islam like Sunni or Shia or Ibadi, it exists within all these groups

it's esoteric and pays a lot attention to the headspace (state of mind), connection to the divine through ecstasis. Similar to Yoga.

as opposed to run-of-the-mill christianity/islam which tends to avoid mysticism in favour of rigid social structures

Orthodox Christianity is pretty mystical tbh

No shortage of mysticism, practical mysticism even

There's been a few mystics in the Catholic church, too.

Fascinating subject.

I predict things B) lol well i just happen to mention things and they happen

I, too, predict from time to time that no plane will fall over me

well, orthodox (and catholics, for the same reason) are more based than what I meant by run-of-the-mill christianity (prot-ism)

I don't get what "rigid social structures" means here

Filthpit material, nerd

It didnt contain anything of substance either

CI belongs in the filthpit

huh?

Humankind is adamite
And after the flood humankind is Noahite
What's CI have to do with it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPftdkGZERA

Ah yes, Galatians 3:28, "There is neither Greek or Jew, there are only Adamites so if you're not one of them tough shit lel"