Message from @ChuuniMage

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2018-11-10 15:11:46 UTC  

"It is true that Christ's baptism is holy; and although it may exist among heretics or schismatics, yet it does not belong to the heresy or schism; and therefore even those who come from thence to the Catholic Church herself ought not to be baptized afresh"

2018-11-10 15:16:19 UTC  

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2018-11-10 16:53:41 UTC  

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2018-11-10 17:27:00 UTC  

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2018-11-10 19:20:14 UTC  

@Daniil The Catholic Church also authorizes the laymen to baptize.

2018-11-10 19:21:17 UTC  

@Mozalbete ⳩ For the rebaptism of heretics, this is a dogma which last from the IInd Ecumenical Council. Thanks.

2018-11-10 19:25:35 UTC  

Not all orthodox churches rebaptise though

2018-11-10 19:25:39 UTC  

From my understanding

2018-11-10 19:25:53 UTC  

It's only the ROCOR while the OCA doesn't

2018-11-10 19:25:54 UTC  

Idk

2018-11-10 19:30:34 UTC  

Yup. The majority of Orthodox in countries which aren't do chrismation to Trinitarians considering the baptism as valid. But that was also said at the IInd Ecumenical Council. (Canon 7)

2018-11-10 19:32:55 UTC  

``` But Eunomians, who are baptized with only one immersion, and Montanists, who are here called Phrygians, and Sabellians, who teach the identity of Father and Son, and do sundry other mischievous things, and [the partisans of] all other heresies -- for there are many such here, particularly among those who come from the country of the Galatians: -- all these, when they desire to turn to orthodoxy, we receive as heathen. On the first day we make them Christians; on the second, catechumens; on the third, we exorcise them by breathing thrice in their face and ears; and thus we instruct them and oblige them to spend some time in the Church, and to hear the Scriptures; and then we baptize them. ```

2018-11-10 19:33:08 UTC  

from the last half of the first paragraph in canon 7

2018-11-10 19:33:30 UTC  

There's not even *one* immersion in RC Baptism

2018-11-10 19:33:59 UTC  

Real shit

2018-11-10 19:34:09 UTC  

I prefer the dunk honestly

2018-11-10 19:34:18 UTC  

_Those who from heresy turn to orthodoxy, and to the portion of those who are being saved, we receive according to the following method and custom: Arians, and Macedonians, and Sabbatians, and Novatians, who call themselves Cathari or Aristori, and Quarto-decimans or Tetradites, and Apollinarians, we receive, upon their giving a written renunciation [of their errors] and anathematize every heresy which is not in accordance with the Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of God. Thereupon, they are first sealed or anointed with the holy oil upon the forehead, eyes, nostrils, mouth, and ears; and when we seal them, we say, "The Seal of the gift of the Holy Ghost."_

2018-11-10 19:34:25 UTC  

There is chrismation 😉

2018-11-10 19:34:37 UTC  

If you're welcomed to the greatest Jam, you've gotta take the greatest Slam

2018-11-10 19:34:52 UTC  

I was dunked by baptists

2018-11-10 19:35:05 UTC  

how many dunks

2018-11-10 19:35:06 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-10 19:35:11 UTC  

Don't remember

2018-11-10 19:35:18 UTC  

In a swimming pool

2018-11-10 19:35:24 UTC  

Of all places

2018-11-10 19:37:11 UTC  

I was present at a friend's baptism at a mega(((church))) twelve years ago. I attended as an atheist and just observed what was going on

2018-11-10 19:37:36 UTC  

I believe it was one dunk

2018-11-10 19:37:52 UTC  

also prottie worship music is probably the most dull thing I have ever heard

2018-11-10 19:38:27 UTC  

Catholic's mass is also with instruments. While the Orthodox Liturgy is _a capella_.

2018-11-10 19:39:01 UTC  

Nothing wrong with organs, amirite?

2018-11-10 19:39:48 UTC  

Because in the Orthodox perspective (and the Fathers), the Liturgy is the reunion of the Church and the Cherubins, who sing the glory of God forever. So the choir intend to copy angels hymns to God.

2018-11-10 19:39:59 UTC  

The only organ that should be present at liturgy is the nous

2018-11-10 19:40:07 UTC  

Orthodox choir is bae

2018-11-10 19:40:17 UTC  

Prottie guitar sermons are cancer

2018-11-10 19:40:25 UTC  

And so, as the cherubins aren't using organs, the choir isn't.

2018-11-10 19:40:26 UTC  

>modern pop tier songs

2018-11-10 19:40:57 UTC  

Plus, half of all prot praise teams I've encountered were mediocre musicians

2018-11-10 19:41:12 UTC  

Or just plain ass

2018-11-10 19:41:46 UTC  

They seemed like the kind of teens who go to church on sunday after debauchery on saturday

2018-11-10 19:42:36 UTC  

Sprinkling is okay when dunking isn't possible, it's in the didache, but it's gotta be triple

2018-11-10 19:42:40 UTC  

@Constantin le Lamantin I like your choice of name btw