Message from @Romanus Drevo
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Wish granted
Wtf was the trad gril thread
@Quarantine_Zone I'm from Norway, so the religious landscape here is pretty lackluster by most standards
I'm in the south, which is our "bible belt" so lots of low-prots like baptists and pentacostals and the like, but there are a few high(er) lutheran churches. There is one catholic parish and the serbian-orthodox one that I mentioned earlier, but not eastern catholics that I know of anywhere near me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroccans_in_Spain
*Moroccans in Spain formed 16.4% of the 4,549,858 foreigners in Spain as of 1 January 2017.[5] They are again the largest foreign group in Spain, after they were surpassed temporarily by Romanians in 2007.[6][7][8] In 2003, they were estimated to make up about 6% of all Moroccans abroad.[9]*
all those expulsions seem to have been for nothing
Seems so
"How many times must we teach you, old man?"
Anyone there?
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for a bit
I'm interested in moving to orthodoxy.
Why?
Let's say i got mostly convinced by some orthobros i argued with, they seem to have a pretty good fix on it and seeing how the roman rite has slowly dried in theology product of their scholastic abuse etc, i really convinced myself of the idea of moving to orthodoxy, i also do not view the orthodox as schismatics.
I see.
I also see
Considering also that from my view your sacraments are as valid in their apostolic tradition i have no reason not to acknowledge salvation in orthodoxy.
Honestly, although I'm Catholic (sorry if the Byzantine soldier threw you off), I'm rather inclined to agree with you. The Schism was a mutual excommunication, but Catholics and Orthodox are the only ones who have any valid claim to Apostolic Succession. So, by that reasoning Orthodox sacraments are equally valid.
This past Sunday, actually, a formerly Orthodox woman was received into the Catholic Church, and all she had to do was recite the Creed (which, for us Eastern Catholics, as the same as the Orthodox use). We considered her baptism and chrismation, received in the Orthodox Church, to be valid, and saw no need to repeat it.
Orthodox seem to do the same, they usually do not do re-chrismation for a catholic, they are more leaning to do so with people from protestant backgrounds for what i know.
So you're east cath?
Nois.
Yep. I'd suggest trying out Eastern Catholicism before you go all out Orthodox.
Hmmm, guess i'll have to think on that, i already tried going with the maronites but they have included many aspects that are wrong from the modern latin rite and it didn't really work out for me.
Yes, unfortunately, some Eastern churches have been influenced the wrong way. But in my experience, Ruthenians, Ukrainians, and Romanians have mostly kept their own traditions, or else are returning to them.
There are catholic ruthenians nearby, but their liturgy schedule is a bit incompaddible with my free time. :/
That is unfortunate. Where are you? What church is it?
I live in mexico atm the church is called The Nativity of the Theotokos "Natividad de la Theotokos" in spanish.
Oh. I don't know it. I thought I might.
No worries, i guess i'm going to get in touch with them, but distance would also be a problem. Thanks for the time none the less.
Godbless.
You too.
It sucks being seen as the idiot when you deny fake climate change.
Scholastic practices are precisely a rich source of theology based on careful examination and using Church Fathers as reference
@Mr. Byzantium Ask how many decades and failed prophecies have to pas before they admit their TV documentaries with doomsday predictions were wrong
When you know most people will try to call you stupid, you have to act with a certain arrogance and wit
Makes sense
The people who doclimate "research" get money by promising that they are going to save the world