Censoring themselves

But like the story around it doesn't make sense...

If you take it to mean Jesus Christ

"He then went and raised by incantations the sinners of Israel.3 He asked them: Who is in repute in the other world? They replied: Israel. What about joining them? They replied: Seek their welfare, seek not their harm. Whoever touches them touches the apple of his eye. He said: What is your punishment? They replied: With boiling hot excrement, since a Master has said: Whoever mocks at the words of the Sages is punished with boiling hot excrement"

"Sinners of israel" is what "Jesus" was changed to. It is not a theory, it is what is written in the oldest known complete Talmud

I'm well aware of the citation. I just told you that the Jesus here is not the same one

And I'm telling you that I see no reason to think that, not to mention that they even censored it

Have you read the whole of Sanhedrin 107?

I have read the part where someone summons spirits who wanted to harm Israel

Not the only mention of "Yeshu" in the Talmud either

Also, it is not there, but in Gittin

Aight, different spots. What's the reference in Gittin?

56b and 57a

And who is it that executes said Jesus in this narrative?

To answer that, go to Sanhedrin 43

There we see that it was under the Hasmonean dynasty

Which ended in 37 BC

The Jews changed a ton of stuff and even messed with the Hebrew manuscripts at times to make them anti-Christian

But there aren't references to Jesus Christ in the Talmud

Ah, yes, this Yeshu that was executed ("hanged"), along with his disciples in the eve of Passover is not Jesus at all

But Jesus Christ's disciples weren't hung with him on the eve of Passover...

You're aware that Jesus was a common name right?

I don't think you understand the Talmud doesn't try to describe historical events

Even if there was this reference to the events happening at most at 37BC, which I do not see anywhere, it would still be a clear reference towards Jesus

Because they hate Jesus

There is a "Yeshu", with disciples, who is accused of sorcery and executed with some kind of hanging in the Eve of Passover

And his **5** disciples

What I'm saying is that the only thing they share is the name Jesus and supposed sorcery

That is not a relevant deatail, because as I have said, it doesn't intend to be historical, nor say the truth, nor is it an important detail

the name

The sorcery

The execution during the Eve of Passover

The disciples

Accusation of leading Israel to apostasy

It is mentioned in other parts as one of the great enemies of Israel who is boiling in exccrement

That is in Sanhedrin 107

It was the general punishment for sorcery

According to their eschatology

What is in Sanhedrin 107?

Wait, no the excrement part is in Gittin

I find the reference very clear. It is no surprise, then, that in some manuscripts, the jews added "the Nasarene" to clear all doubts