Message from @ZleepWave

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2019-03-27 14:56:01 UTC  

Since every “false flag”? Mass shootings rarely have an ideological motive, and is usually just psychosis

2019-03-27 14:56:28 UTC  

Not all mass shootings are false flags

2019-03-27 14:56:45 UTC  

Arguably none of them are

2019-03-27 14:57:29 UTC  

But that would be a premise that I don't think is validly presupposed

2019-03-27 14:58:05 UTC  

That a weird conspiracy theory probably isn’t real?

2019-03-27 14:58:08 UTC  

I would not put it past the Middle-Eastern governments to do this

2019-03-27 14:58:53 UTC  

Why? so they can condemn it? the only islamic reaction, in violence of course, has been from Daesh and other radicals

2019-03-27 14:59:37 UTC  

No, so they can incite more race onto the Muslim population

2019-03-27 15:00:10 UTC  

They want to radicalize the general Muslims in Europe in order to force them into more political action

2019-03-27 15:00:30 UTC  

Thus increasing political influence

2019-03-27 15:00:51 UTC  

Again, that’s extremely convoluted and unlikely, to say the least

2019-03-27 15:00:55 UTC  

It's no conspiracy that Muslims want control over Europe...

2019-03-27 15:01:52 UTC  

That's been a recurring theme in history and now is not different

2019-03-27 15:01:54 UTC  

It is a conspiracy to say that Islamic governments commuted a false flag attack on a mosque in an irrelevant town in an irrelevant country

2019-03-27 15:02:27 UTC  

Lego Christi

2019-03-27 15:02:32 UTC  

That didn't matter, as we've seen. It made international news and went viral

2019-03-27 15:03:07 UTC  

Because of leftists media, like every other shooting.

2019-03-27 15:03:27 UTC  

And they knew leftist media would do that

2019-03-27 15:04:00 UTC  

The fact that it's in New Zealand makes the problem more international rather than isolated to Europe. That's good for them.

2019-03-27 15:04:56 UTC  

Alright then, let’s just say that somehow your theory is worth something. What evidence do you have in support of it?

2019-03-27 15:06:37 UTC  

Memes in video and manifesto are slightly stale and seem to match too cleanly with a particular narrative, namely the narrative that is being pushed by the MSM: He is a Spencerite. 4chan is anything but a place of clean ideologies, yet his memes match 4chan memes from a few months back. This seems out of place that someone would be so familiar with memes, but match memes that are a couple months old. All memers know that memes die fast and a stale meme is a bad meme.

Shooter is overly comfortable the whole time of the shooting; he has no training according to the MSM.

He got rich of bitconnect supposedly; this is how he traveled the world before this, yet bitconnect largely failed; almost nobody made money off of it.

There are up to five suspects and up to two shooters. MSM is only speaking of one shooter.

2019-03-27 15:07:23 UTC  

Note: His manifesto was first posted on 8chan

2019-03-27 15:13:13 UTC  

1) I’ve heard all of those memes a million times. He likely wasn’t in too deep in meme culture, or was just quoting the recognizable ones knowing that there’s a lot of people watching the video.

2) He’s obviously a psychopath. Look at the behavior of school shooters or videos of the robbers in North Hollywood. They’re all psychotic, obviously.
3) I’ll need a source for that. Also, many people got a decent bit of success off of bitconnect and bitcoin in general. Not a stretch of the imagination.
4) A few people are suspected of assisting the shooter, but there’s no concrete evidence of multiple shooters.
5) The 8chan community is as bad (if not worse) than /pol/ on 4chan.
6) Link doesn’t load anything.
@Quarantine_Zone

2019-03-27 15:14:48 UTC  

I made a bunch off Bitcoin, but bitconnect was much less successful.

2019-03-27 15:15:17 UTC  

There was some though. not to mention the media may just not know the difference

2019-03-27 15:15:29 UTC  

So he isn't deep in meme culture, but posts the manifesto on 8chan? And links to FB stream from there?

2019-03-27 15:16:10 UTC  

Yes. Some retards are further in than others, even on the autism playpen websites

2019-03-27 15:18:32 UTC  

Seems too odd to me

2019-03-27 15:18:43 UTC  

Everything seems to add up

2019-03-27 15:19:23 UTC  

I don't see someone posting that to 8chan without being pretty deep in 8chan

2019-03-27 15:20:06 UTC  

A lot of people who don’t use 4chan have posted before a shooting, suicide, murder,etc.

2019-03-27 15:20:23 UTC  

Probably just posting it somewhere it wouldn’t get deleted too fast

2019-03-27 15:50:16 UTC  

Was slavery ever actually ended for moral reasons as opposed to economic reasons?

2019-03-27 16:01:02 UTC  

@TheImperator
Slavery in America was ended to win the war. Lincoln was actually against ending it personally. I’m sure some country somewhere has ended because it’s generally bad.

2019-03-27 16:03:42 UTC  

Slavery in the British Empire was ended on the moral arguments of William Wilburforce's famous 3 hour parliamentary address.

2019-03-27 16:04:04 UTC  

That’s good to hear.

2019-03-27 16:04:06 UTC  

The British Empire spent a lot of its wealth buying the freedom of slaves in its territory.

2019-03-27 17:54:00 UTC  

Seems good. Might get abused though.