Message from @vhozonian

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2019-03-29 16:51:27 UTC  

Dahmer was raped, and raised by an incestous family.

2019-03-29 16:52:16 UTC  

There is absolutely nothing wrong with corporal punishment. A child who is misbehaving won't be mentally scarred by a minor slap behind the head.

2019-03-29 16:54:13 UTC  

I don't think I get what definition of corporal punishment is according to you guys.

2019-03-29 16:54:40 UTC  

Beat that ass.

2019-03-29 16:54:51 UTC  

That's more or less the definition.

2019-03-29 16:55:20 UTC  

My parents often slapped me in the face or in extreme cases mom would threaten us with iron burning

2019-03-29 16:55:51 UTC  

Eh, mine was a bit of everything

2019-03-29 16:56:40 UTC  

Well, that depends, did they do it for no reason? The slapping I mean, burning your kids with a hot iron isn't good either way.

2019-03-29 16:58:10 UTC  

The slapping was either misbehaviour or if I failed at a question when we were studying

2019-03-29 16:58:58 UTC  

Most of the time, the latter. I wasn't a kid prone to trouble

2019-03-29 16:59:41 UTC  

Obviously there's a difference between corporal punishment and child abuse.

2019-03-29 16:59:57 UTC  

I think it's fair to say that being hit by an iron is child abuse.

2019-03-29 17:04:16 UTC  

I thought it was normal at the time

2019-03-29 17:07:49 UTC  

But anyways I wouldn't personally do any type of corporal punishment, I just can't bring myself to do it to a child.

2019-03-29 17:14:08 UTC  

Well, okay, the thing I have a problem with though, is that most people who also "can't bring themselves to do it to a child" also want to have CPS take the children away from parents who do.

2019-03-29 17:15:00 UTC  

Not to mention that's actually the least horrible thing I've seen. A good number of them literally want them charged with child abuse and put in prison.

2019-03-29 17:17:50 UTC  

I wonder how they will enforce that

2019-03-29 17:19:40 UTC  

I mean, CPS is already powerful enough to enforce such a thing if the a Law were passed that allowed them to do so.

2019-03-29 17:22:12 UTC  

They can, and often do, take children away from their parents, based on completely arbritrary, personal, standards, that don't conform to any formalized law code.

2019-03-29 17:22:22 UTC  

Exactly

2019-03-29 17:22:33 UTC  

It wouldn't pass

2019-03-29 17:22:46 UTC  

Now they don't do that permanently, but the fact that they can do it for months at a time, is already a precendent.

2019-03-29 17:24:57 UTC  

@vhozonian Why? Such things have already passed, and been enforced, in other countries. Why should we expect it would be any different if the culture shift, shifts even further?

2019-03-29 17:25:22 UTC  

In Europe?

2019-03-29 17:25:32 UTC  

Norway, specifically.

2019-03-29 17:26:07 UTC  

The UK, did it recently, for different reasons, but the fact remains that they 'can' do it.

2019-03-29 17:29:36 UTC  

I mean, it's ok if it's in the UK with all the Muslims now

2019-03-29 17:30:37 UTC  

But it seems weird that Norway would pass that law, they don't seem to have child abuse problems

2019-03-29 17:31:06 UTC  

I'm talking about Alfie Evans, but yeah.

2019-03-29 17:31:27 UTC  

Like I said, they did it for different reasons, but they still have the power to do it for the reasons I mentioned.

2019-03-29 17:31:42 UTC  

The amount of child abuse I see in the UK on a weekly basis is enough to convince me we need our protective services to pull their metaphorical finger out

2019-03-29 17:32:37 UTC  

I bet most of the abuse cases come from Pakistanis and Indians

2019-03-29 17:32:42 UTC  

@vhozonian They consider "Christian indoctrination" to be child abuse in Norway.

2019-03-29 17:32:51 UTC  

That's how they justify it.

2019-03-29 17:34:48 UTC  

Any sort of corporal punishment, no matter how benign, is also considered an offense that can get your kids taken away in Norway.

2019-03-29 17:35:11 UTC  

The fact that the two usually go hand in hand doesn't help things.

2019-03-29 17:36:05 UTC  

Depressingly, its not gandi.
Its mostly atheistic yobs, the kind youd see at a footie game making England an embarrassmeny and collectively dropping IQ points per pint of cheap lager.
Chavs too

2019-03-29 17:36:40 UTC  

Its not quite that strict here but its close with regards to punishing your child

2019-03-29 17:39:07 UTC  

And that's not to mention that an increasing amount of people are advocating for this kind of stuff. If the next generation holds these views, then it doesn't matter what wouldn't pass right now.

2019-03-29 17:39:30 UTC  

Just look at the massive shift from the 50's to the 70's

2019-03-29 17:40:09 UTC  

The generation coming after me is right wing and traditionalist as they come, almost making up for the ridiculous lefty nonesense my generation has become known for.