Message from @Quarantine_Zone
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you can call it however you want
?
I can call it what it is
And nothing else
I will only call it the energy-essence distinction because that is what it is
No more, no less.
It says that Christ does things according to divine nature, and according to huan nature
Did you not read the parts about energy and activities and their distinction?
That is the context, that all activities, no matter form what nature, come form Christ
It's an opposition to nestorians
Nestorians?
Do you know anything about the sixth council?
he even cites "the foul effluence of Nestorius" right in the text you gave me
Because itis a christological profession
Yeah, but he overall section is against Monothelitists. That's the point of the chapter
Sure, it's against Nestorians too, but generally speaking against Monothelitists
Give 11 a thorough read. He's so clear about the energy-essence distinction
I don't really see anything special in that text, and truly nothing that goes against anything in catholicism. God has two natures , and even though Christ's activities may belong to one or other nature, they are both of Christ
"The difference of the essence is always understood from the difference of the activities."
That is what I already have summarised
Which you so firmly argue against
Oh yes, is it some dogma of cahtolicism, for example, that Christ has no activities?
Because that is what would go against that
More properly, I mean that when you read the whole letter, it is clear that he is basing his entire argument against the Monothelitists on the grounds of the energy-essence distinction
And the fact that it is affirmed at Constantinople III means it is dogmatic
I have a question for everyone
What do you think of Theozoology?
I think you are trying too hard to see what isn't there
The text just mentions how even though Christ has two natures, with activities that are characteristic of both, it can't be said that there are two Christs, or that some activities don't belong to Christ
That is why, aftter the very sentence you quoted, it says
I'm not attempting to say there are two christs
I'm trying to show you that the energy-essence distinction is all throughout the letter
That is what the letter is refering to, in that chapter
Yes, but he goes on and on about energy essence throughout the whole thing
Which is why I said, "the whole letter pretty much."
In other words: tehre is nothing in that letter that is rejected by Catholicism, unless you think that Catholicism says that Christ has no activities, or doesn't have two natures, etc
But he clearly makes a distinction between energy and essence
As I said, you can call is whatever you like, but that doesn't change the fact that theere is nothing in that text against Catholicism

