But then, Dante Allighieri was pretty convinced Judas hung from the fangs of Lucifer.

Dante is just a poet

True.

It was ironic <:bruh:569616839340982272>

ppl in another server talkin about greek mythology

haha greek bagans btfo

Is suicide a sin if the person is mentally ill??

huh.. so Logos has payment plans now.. didn't know this. $60 for a year and I'd have enough research material to sate my autism for a lifetime

@alias I guess standard Catholic teaching is that it might not be.. but it depends on the person i guess

I was just wondering. Ive heard both that it is and that it isn't a sin.

the way I heard it described is that intent factors into it

if you don't have full use of your reason...

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07648a.htm

I hope God shows mercy upon those who are very mentally ill and kill themselves. But I don't think Judas was mentally ill I think he was just ashamed of his sin

>Invincible ignorance, whether of the law or of the fact, is always a valid excuse and excludes sin.

Thank you for the link!!

(new advent is shockingly good but hard to read sometimes.. something about their writing style)

I feel the same way!

But I just thought it was me being stupid!!

is Judas in hell?

can't say for sure. Christ said it would be better if he had never been born, which sounds bad for him

RIP

Oof

Yes, Judas is in hell

Probably one of the few we know is actually there

o o f

Yes, had he repented he would have been forgiven, but overwhelmed of guilt for betraying the Son of God he decided to take his life

could that be counted as repentance?

Not at all

hmmmst

He took his life because apart from carrying so much guilt, he had nothing anymore, his friends would despise him for betraying their master, the pharisees saw him as weak for rejecting the silver, it was game over

he got game ended in the worst way

cant help but feel bad for him

Yes, he let himself be deceived by the devil

o o

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I think a contemporary priest might say "we cant know anyone is in hell for certain".. but yeah judas in hell

That’s why I said he’s one of the few we know for sure

That webm is lovely 😃

I think it is safe to say that someone who feels enough guilt to kill himself regrets doing what he did