Message from @Wrath

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2019-07-15 12:09:19 UTC  

and he seems untrustworthy

2019-07-15 12:09:27 UTC  

how should I advice her?

2019-07-15 12:10:07 UTC  

Why was she kicked out? Just to get an idea of how the parents are

2019-07-15 12:10:27 UTC  

no reason apparently, just her having little next to no attachment to her?

2019-07-15 12:10:40 UTC  

that's the message I picked up all these years talking to the girl

2019-07-15 12:11:04 UTC  

she remarried, and the og dad came back, as mentioned earlier

2019-07-15 12:11:10 UTC  

vicious circle, really

2019-07-15 12:26:06 UTC  

Well, stick it out for another 2 years and then go her own way.

2019-07-15 12:26:16 UTC  

Is my advice.

2019-07-15 12:26:54 UTC  

she's 20 already, on her own house, I forgot to add that

2019-07-15 12:27:06 UTC  

Well I would in the rebuke my parents to lead them to repentance of whatever needs repentance. But they seem to be highly unstable, so one would need great charisma and wisdom to do the rebuking properly, without the parents reacting in an undesirable manner. And fedoras have neither wisdom nor charisma

2019-07-15 12:27:38 UTC  

Should've included that in the intro

2019-07-15 12:28:08 UTC  

So she can try to interact with her parents in a way that will get them to acknowledge their errors, but she should focus on not being a fool herself, because it is clear she isn't much better

2019-07-15 12:28:28 UTC  

her parents are the * I am my own god * sort and she herself is prone to pagan practices, and whereas she's fine living by herself, she wants to friend her mom back at least. You figure it poisons a child to not be able to talk properly with her own parents

2019-07-15 12:29:12 UTC  

She's proner to retarded LARPing escapism, so you should try to guide her to Christ, who has actual substance and meaning

2019-07-15 12:29:21 UTC  

It does. I would suggest she tried to re-establish communications with her mum, or at least give it some time to cool off

2019-07-15 12:29:54 UTC  

But yes, first things first. Your friend must come to Christ, otherwise she won't have the moral and mental foundation to mend the ties

2019-07-15 12:29:58 UTC  

it's been a few years in which she couldn't do much, God knows why. It's overwhelming to try to advice anything on my part

2019-07-15 12:30:13 UTC  

yeah, I am trying to guide her towards Christ this way

2019-07-15 12:30:49 UTC  

I can't accept it myself that there's the possibility of the ties being impossible to be mended back

2019-07-15 12:31:42 UTC  

I've been through that, my parents are hedonistic and kicked me out at an early age. My life didn't start improving until I shed their influence.

2019-07-15 12:32:11 UTC  

hedonism, touché

2019-07-15 12:32:14 UTC  

They can always be mended back, but in order to properly rebuke and not be an emotional mess, one has to appreciate what is truly good and truly evil

2019-07-15 12:32:30 UTC  

She needs to ignore them and focus on herself. Then when she is ready she can try and mend the ties.

2019-07-15 12:32:47 UTC  

But she needs to step back first.

2019-07-15 12:32:56 UTC  

is this the way you acted?

2019-07-15 12:33:31 UTC  

since you mentioned you had a similar experience

2019-07-15 12:33:39 UTC  

Only after years of floundering around, and tbh I still haven't spoken to my mother. But I'm getting better, slowly but surely.

2019-07-15 12:34:12 UTC  

I see

2019-07-15 12:34:25 UTC  

Family is a difficult thing, but sometimes you need to focus on yourself and where you need to be, instead of letting them cloud your judgement.

2019-07-15 12:35:17 UTC  

Luckily she's older than I was, so she shouldn't have as hard a time. But yeah, severing them to be reestablished at a later date is what I would recommend.

2019-07-15 12:35:50 UTC  

I thought of it as well, though I found it pretty cold of a way

2019-07-15 12:35:53 UTC  

I'd say it takes time, because you can't just go back and pretend all is fine: by our nature we seek justice, so we are not satisfied until others understand the injustice that was made against. But to properly convince of that injustice takes charisma and wisdom, as I mentioned. And of course a cool head that won't explode emotionally.

2019-07-15 12:35:55 UTC  

guess it's the best one, nonetheless

2019-07-15 12:36:59 UTC  

it's all so difficult

2019-07-15 12:37:07 UTC  

she's a conviced lgbt member

2019-07-15 12:37:14 UTC  

you figure the fight here

2019-07-15 12:37:57 UTC  

She's a huge mess overall

2019-07-15 12:38:14 UTC  

Broken families tend to do that

2019-07-15 12:38:14 UTC  

Not surprising

2019-07-15 12:38:15 UTC  

bringing a hedonistic and comfortable modern man to the rigors and spiritual strictness of eastern orthodoxy will be quite the battle 😂