Message from @Acrumen
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like the one at rome
Lmao please point me to the ecumenical councils that are overturned
I could also say
Since the councils you accept state that the HS proceeds from the Father, and the Father and the Son are one and share the same essence, then your denial of the Filioque is trying to overturn the council of Nicea
And Constantinople II*
Specifically the 13th Anathema of St. Cyril of Alexandria
except the creed from the council of nicea doesnt have that clause
the hoop jumping continues
Ah, so you deny that the Father and the Son are one in essence, so that what is said of one is also said of the other, or that what is understood of the Father is understood of the Son
by your amazing logic, so did everyone at the council of nicea
What about Constantinople II?
Theodoret’s teachings were condemned
He professed what you believe about the HS
Is that also just mental gymnastics?
It is just an example of how you shouldn't just go around claiming how people "overturn councils". If we have any council declared as ecumenical that contradicts another such council, say so, and point to the specific canons
what i believe about the Holy Spirit is what is professed through the nicene creed
Was Constantinople II not Orthodox?
I don't know if you noticed, but
The Creed isn't supposed to be the entire Christian doctrine in a couple sentenes
I'm late as hell to the party but that sounds awful, marrying someone and you can't get any kids out of them
Also, what you say is false, because the orthodox use the nicene-constantinopolitan creed
at least make that the ultimatum smh
Also, Council of Nicea translates to additions to the faith, not creed
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```The Creed isn't supposed to be the entire Christian doctrine in a couple sentenes```
so dont go around fucking with it lmao
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What changes it is denying what is implicit in it
Because that rivals with the faith of the Creed
filioque is 👌
still hasn’t addressed Constantinople II
Guess Theodoret was an ok dude
You could as well complain that the creed exists, saying "don't mess around with Scripture". The purpose of the Creed is to combat heresies, which is why some minor things are explicitely added to combat further heresies
Which is why the orthodox also use a version with additions
Literally had to agree with filioque to avoid further heresies
which were
Most threatening, Theodoret’s teachings
Which again, were condemned in Constantinople II
i meant the filioqie
what was it used to combat
The idea that the Holy Spirit does not come from the Son, so that the Spirit of Christ is a different one from the Spirit of the Father