Message from @ninjacats

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2019-08-31 20:18:10 UTC  

Indeed

2019-08-31 20:19:06 UTC  

Jews gave up the title of "God's chosen people" anyway after Jesus came around so

2019-08-31 20:19:13 UTC  

John 8:44

2019-08-31 20:19:13 UTC  

**John 8:44 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<44> You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. ```

2019-08-31 20:20:43 UTC  

ok, like i get that jews weren't a Godly people AT THE TIME of Christ, but much of the Christian religion is still based on judaism as it existed long before Christ. you cant deny it

2019-08-31 20:20:55 UTC  

moses, 10 commandments, noahs ark, etc etc etc

2019-08-31 20:21:27 UTC  

Christianity based on Jesus bud not jews

2019-08-31 20:21:46 UTC  

J U D E O - C H R I S T I A N

2019-08-31 20:21:46 UTC  

Judaism is not comparable to Christianity, because Judaism is based on the legal traditions (Mosaic Laws) carried out by the Jews in the days of old

2019-08-31 20:22:02 UTC  

@JoeyJoestar1337 explain the 10 commandments, explain the Old Testament

2019-08-31 20:22:07 UTC  

the same nibbas who were the Pharisees

2019-08-31 20:22:14 UTC  

What is there to "explain"?

2019-08-31 20:22:23 UTC  

those are what we'd call practicing jews today

2019-08-31 20:23:27 UTC  

Time for real IQ hours.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/617454428265513121/Screenshot_36.png

2019-08-31 20:23:40 UTC  

@ninjacats in short: God was nice enough to make Jews the chosen people. Moses got the ten commandments from God. But instead of accepting the commandments, Jews turned around and said "hmm nope we gonna do things our own way. In fact, these groups of elders at the base of the mountain know better than this "God" dude"

2019-08-31 20:24:17 UTC  

Judaism was branched off from Christianity, not the other way around

2019-08-31 20:25:23 UTC  

ok wait that logic doesnt follow

2019-08-31 20:25:40 UTC  

ok wait i see

2019-08-31 20:25:44 UTC  

so what your saying is

2019-08-31 20:25:54 UTC  

Literally just read the Torah, it explains how the roots of Judaism were founded

2019-08-31 20:26:23 UTC  

the judaism of old, before Christ, is the same as Christianity, whereas the jews of today are the actually "offshoot" is that what you mean?

2019-08-31 20:27:04 UTC  

The jews of today follow the legal traditions (aka the laws they wrote for themselves to rule over other people)

2019-08-31 20:27:37 UTC  

But yeah, Jews were chosen by God (originally). Those that followed him became Christian. Those who don't followed the talmud

2019-08-31 20:27:47 UTC  

i see

2019-08-31 20:28:21 UTC  

ok but still God as He existed before Christ was a jewish God, no?

2019-08-31 20:28:37 UTC  

thats a fair statement?

2019-08-31 20:30:39 UTC  

God is eternal and is basically the same, regardless of pre christ or after christ. He is only "jewish" insofar as to say Jews were the first group of people who God revealed himself to

2019-08-31 20:30:43 UTC  

>as He existed before Christ
Uh-oh.

2019-08-31 20:30:46 UTC  

👀

2019-08-31 20:31:30 UTC  

If God originally revealed himself to Greeks, we would be calling him a Greek God. Or if he revealed himself to Africans first, we'd call him an African God

2019-08-31 20:31:41 UTC  

So that doesn't matter

2019-08-31 20:32:45 UTC  

God is *God*. Not some Jewish God.

2019-08-31 20:32:49 UTC  

ok makes sense

2019-08-31 20:33:24 UTC  

The proof is that Greeks were close to deriving God through Logos

2019-08-31 20:33:58 UTC  

Aristotle discovered the "unmoved mover", a quality that accurately describes God

2019-08-31 20:34:36 UTC  

jojo is correct

2019-08-31 20:35:25 UTC  

the jew i live with is quarreling with her daughter because she doesnt want to teach her child hebrew and doesnt care for or follow any traditions

lol

2019-08-31 20:36:28 UTC  

Jews and Muslims don’t have the same God as us, you can’t change my mind

2019-08-31 20:36:41 UTC  

i also had a long conversation with her the other night and she was talking about how criticism of israel IS antisemitism, full stop. she also says anti-semitism is on the rise, that she can "feel it in the air"

2019-08-31 20:36:58 UTC  

b r u h

2019-08-31 20:37:10 UTC  

shouldve done a heil hitler right then and there