Message from @pinkfloydfan123

Discord ID: 653698809401966603


2019-12-09 20:36:53 UTC  

At least my company is mainly Russian GenXers

2019-12-09 20:37:00 UTC  

So, im spared the cancer

2019-12-09 20:37:22 UTC  

But I imagine it making its way into Estonian multinational corps over here

2019-12-09 20:38:10 UTC  

Lucky, my class is full of these people

2019-12-09 20:38:48 UTC  

I train mainly gen z and they are mostly edgy when it comes to how they view things

2019-12-09 20:38:55 UTC  

Could be worse

2019-12-09 20:39:10 UTC  

You could work as a gamedev surrounded by historically and comically illiterate writing teams of women.

2019-12-09 20:39:12 UTC  

Oh boi

2019-12-09 20:39:33 UTC  

I don't understand why "skeptics" are so retarded

2019-12-09 20:39:55 UTC  

One girl I was with today was talking about how she didn't like boomers

2019-12-09 20:39:57 UTC  

I've been debating a bunch before I got banned from their server.

2019-12-09 20:40:06 UTC  

Skeptics of Christ?

2019-12-09 20:41:04 UTC  

No like atheists/humanists. The "skeptics"

2019-12-09 20:41:55 UTC  

I was trying to get them to understand how accepting empiricism but rejecting self-evident logical axioms is insane and doesn't make any sense, but it's like talking to a brick wall

2019-12-09 20:44:03 UTC  

They probably don’t even know who or what defined empiricism

2019-12-09 20:44:35 UTC  

That's literally not even the problem though.

2019-12-09 20:44:35 UTC  

Literal atheists who disliked any notion of the metaphysical those bastards in the Vienna circle

2019-12-09 20:45:07 UTC  

You interpret empirical evidence in accordance with logic which is based on self-evident beliefs/axioms.

2019-12-09 20:45:11 UTC  

Yeah, but how can you expect them to know what you’re talking about if they just base off their beliefs in a Wikipedia definition

2019-12-09 20:45:40 UTC  

@MawLr It's kind of insane. They basically blank out when I tell them this.

2019-12-09 20:45:41 UTC  

I just don't get why they spend so much energy trying to disprove something they don't think exists

2019-12-09 20:46:02 UTC  

Because it would justify their tendency to the hedonistic

2019-12-09 20:46:19 UTC  

Even in accordance to the wikipedia definition. I don't understand how you can accept empiricism but reject fucking logic.

2019-12-09 20:46:42 UTC  

They just didn't accept that empiricism was justified by logic.

2019-12-09 20:46:48 UTC  

Oh wow

2019-12-09 20:46:55 UTC  

That’s a new level of autism

2019-12-09 20:46:59 UTC  

Ok noob question

2019-12-09 20:47:07 UTC  

What do you mean by empiricism?

2019-12-09 20:47:07 UTC  

Well, okay, they rejected self-evident logical axioms

2019-12-09 20:47:18 UTC  

I'm just trying to understand

2019-12-09 20:47:28 UTC  

Basically they said that you can't know any axiom for sure, but for some reason, despite that, they were all empiricists

2019-12-09 20:47:53 UTC  

Empiricism (logical empiricism or positivism) is the set of ideas that everything has a logical and physical explanation

2019-12-09 20:47:57 UTC  

Oh just looked it up

2019-12-09 20:48:05 UTC  

Ok but not everything does

2019-12-09 20:48:09 UTC  

I tried to point out how saying if you can't know any axiom for sure, then it doesn't make any sense at all to jump to empiricism.

2019-12-09 20:48:20 UTC  

@MawLr No empiricism has to do with 'physical' evidence

2019-12-09 20:48:28 UTC  

If that's the case how do you explain why there is evil in the world?

2019-12-09 20:48:31 UTC  

Things you can see touch taste, ect.

2019-12-09 20:48:34 UTC  

Where did evil come from?

2019-12-09 20:48:46 UTC  

Yeah, physical explanations

2019-12-09 20:49:00 UTC  

My point is that the reject logical axioms as absolute, but then they jump straight to relying on physical evidence for everything