Message from @Johnny Hates God

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2019-09-02 18:24:05 UTC  

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

2019-09-02 18:24:07 UTC  

What part isn't the NAP?#

2019-09-02 18:25:01 UTC  

1.) Non-contradiction Principle- Truth, must be non-contradictory.

2.) Consistency Principle- Truth must be applicable across all applications consistently.

3.) Ownership Principle- A rational actor owns, which their will extends over.

4.) Self-Ownership Principle- A rational actors will, is always extended of the self of the rational actor, therefore owns the self.

5.) Steading Principle- A rational actor can contain their will into a creation, by using their agency.

2019-09-02 18:25:45 UTC  

(Non-contradiction, Consistency principle) One in the same and is A priori from deriving the NAP

2019-09-02 18:26:02 UTC  

They can and do predate the NAP

2019-09-02 18:26:05 UTC  

Ownership principle - NAP => lockean ownership

2019-09-02 18:26:06 UTC  

bynecessity

2019-09-02 18:26:23 UTC  

The other half of the pneomaic ethics is the nap

2019-09-02 18:26:44 UTC  

4.) Self-Ownership Principle- A rational actors will, is always extended of the self of the rational actor, therefore owns the self.
this is the NAP as well it's how NAP is framed

2019-09-02 18:26:47 UTC  

the first half predates the other half which is technically the NAP by default

2019-09-02 18:26:59 UTC  

Steading principle -> basically ownership principle...

2019-09-02 18:27:06 UTC  

It's still not entirely the nap

2019-09-02 18:27:13 UTC  

It's just the NAP rephrased?

2019-09-02 18:27:21 UTC  

it's literally derived the same way and come to the same conclusions

2019-09-02 18:27:38 UTC  

Shaman even says that property rights from first principles is the grounding... which is the same as with the NAP

2019-09-02 18:31:40 UTC  

Ayyyyyyy

2019-09-02 18:31:48 UTC  

?

2019-09-02 18:31:56 UTC  

I'm back mother fucker

2019-09-02 18:32:05 UTC  

wb

2019-09-02 18:33:03 UTC  

Workin

2019-09-02 18:33:57 UTC  

Got another job at an auto shop. Tires and oil changes. Easy peasy. $1,000 biweekly.

2019-09-02 18:35:38 UTC  

@Wes The Savage So how is it not the NAP, what makes it different

2019-09-02 18:36:04 UTC  

Fair enough

2019-09-02 18:36:22 UTC  

There is a lot of air and a lot of fluff and traps for opposition, that's all..

2019-09-02 18:36:25 UTC  

I'll concede since I don't have a better argument formed in this case solely

2019-09-02 18:36:37 UTC  

Even though I was arguing doubt

2019-09-02 18:36:40 UTC  

but eh

2019-09-02 18:37:00 UTC  

'Positive human interaction' is undefined and irrelevant to the principles, nor is there a case for how it is to be achieved.

2019-09-02 18:38:34 UTC  

Well I hope I've made a substantial arguing the lack of differences such that it demonstrates the same form the NAP and PE share

2019-09-02 18:45:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611751317005664277/618154573172965519/PicsArt_09-02-01.42.41.png

2019-09-02 18:48:01 UTC  

guys it's hoppe's birthday

2019-09-02 18:48:14 UTC  

he is no longer 69

2019-09-02 19:21:08 UTC  

Who

2019-09-02 19:21:14 UTC  

Cares

2019-09-02 19:21:38 UTC  

🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

2019-09-02 19:21:43 UTC  

😎😎😎😎😎

2019-09-02 19:23:19 UTC  

Ive understand what clown world really means!

2019-09-02 19:23:28 UTC  

The meaning behind it is more of a rebellion against modern society!
That is filled with the new moral puritanism...Social Justice!
Recognizing the ridiculousness & retardartion of the modern world.
Especially the highly politically correct, modern world.
Yet simply sitting back on the sidelines, while pointing & enjoying a hearty laugh.

2019-09-02 19:24:00 UTC  

It's self-defeating

2019-09-02 19:24:33 UTC  

How is it exactly

2019-09-02 19:25:23 UTC  

Laughing takes away time and shifts the mind away from the capacity for change.