Every society has sins, that'd be a waste of typing

Then why do the same of any idea?

some worse than others, a few horrendously worse

Why do the same for state socialists or even statism?

May I direct your attention to my PFP

Okay..?

That doesn't answer my question

I reject the state

Why should you?

if you can't point towards what they've done wrong?

it's an inherently violent institution

and I am not a violent person :P

you can't do that, that'd be a waste of typing

'every society has sins'

yes, because they are made up of flawed individuals

Oh really? That's rich, but that's just your opinion right?

allowing a handful of the worst of those flawed individuals have authority over others is a travesty

yes, it's absolutely my opinion

I suppose it's all just opinion in the end, it's not like we can logically derive our course of action from our goals and have them be objectively true for said set of goals? Nah just opinion.

most things are subjective, yes indeed

**we can logically derive our course of action from our goals and have them be objectively true for said set of goals**

that's not objective though, it's specific to each individual's goals

It's an objective way of attaining ones goals..

Logic is a way of constructing truth conserving statements

but it's not, because someone else may achieve the same goal in a different way

Then there are multiple solutions, yet the contrary cannot be the case

We can map solutions to efficiency, limit it down

we can map solutions dialectically to environment and people and limit it down

There are 'true' methods of reaching goals that ensure those goals are met given the assumptions hold.

valid

things can be valid but not objective

So what does objective mean to you?

Based on A priori?

in this context, `Not dependent on the mind for existence; actual.`

Then I suppose I've been conflating: Valid, Absolute and Objective.

language is a shithead sometimes lol

So objective - not dependant on mind for existence; actual.

Absolute - based on the mind and yet cannot be showcased to not be the way it is without the mind

there are multiple uses of the word, to be fair

Valid - given a objective or mental assumption, a statement that holds validity

in any case, I believe everyone is entitled to their own thought process, so long as you're not harming others :P