Message from @NO

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2019-09-02 05:05:03 UTC  

I can make specific channels for each topic

2019-09-02 05:05:23 UTC  

Isn't a creator the same thing as a prima cause

2019-09-02 05:05:32 UTC  

I need a logical defense for atheism

2019-09-02 05:05:46 UTC  

A creator is a prime cause, but a prime cause doesn’t have to be a creator being

2019-09-02 05:05:47 UTC  

Lets say the BOP is on me

2019-09-02 05:05:54 UTC  

False

2019-09-02 05:06:02 UTC  

That’s switching the burden

2019-09-02 05:06:08 UTC  

He claims its an atheist cliche to claim that

2019-09-02 05:06:09 UTC  

Burdens on the one with the claim

2019-09-02 05:06:18 UTC  

But he tricks people into making claims

2019-09-02 05:06:28 UTC  

Religion can’t prove it beyond personal experience, which where does that get you in court and science

2019-09-02 05:06:36 UTC  

True

2019-09-02 05:06:36 UTC  

He could say that atheists are claiming that God doesn't exist

2019-09-02 05:06:46 UTC  

Doesn’t matter, not the atheist burden to reach

2019-09-02 05:06:57 UTC  

We’re claiming there’s no evidence so why believe

2019-09-02 05:07:12 UTC  

Isn't that agnostic

2019-09-02 05:07:20 UTC  

No evidence

2019-09-02 05:07:34 UTC  

Why not believe in ra, oden, Zeus, etc

2019-09-02 05:07:35 UTC  

Atheist say they *know* God doesn't exist

2019-09-02 05:07:40 UTC  

Agnostic is unsure

2019-09-02 05:07:49 UTC  

Agnostics say that they don't give a shit

2019-09-02 05:07:54 UTC  

Atheist is against the idea of a deity due to a lack of evidence

2019-09-02 05:08:10 UTC  

Lack of evidence is not proof

2019-09-02 05:08:17 UTC  

Then they’re more atheist technically, agnostic is curious, but waits for evidense

2019-09-02 05:08:22 UTC  
2019-09-02 05:08:26 UTC  

So what about elves?

2019-09-02 05:08:34 UTC  

Does the logic apply

2019-09-02 05:08:48 UTC  

Why do these people look like potatoes

2019-09-02 05:08:51 UTC  

If not with science, law, etc, why with religion?

2019-09-02 05:09:13 UTC  

Maybe because they are mashed together

2019-09-02 05:09:13 UTC  

Because those are empirical sciences

2019-09-02 05:09:35 UTC  

Why should religion if the claims are to be taken serious not be the same

2019-09-02 05:09:40 UTC  

Philosophy is more than empiricism

2019-09-02 05:09:44 UTC  

Held to the same standards

2019-09-02 05:09:45 UTC  

Far more

2019-09-02 05:10:36 UTC  

Scientifically speaking, you could "prove" that God doesn't exist due to lack of evidence

2019-09-02 05:11:08 UTC  

Let me ask it differently, what makes religion special?
Also, science disproves, it proves 😉

2019-09-02 05:11:28 UTC  

A scientific fact, is a hypothesis that hasn’t been disproven yet.

2019-09-02 05:11:44 UTC  

Where there is no evidence, there is no reason to look

2019-09-02 05:11:50 UTC  

We aren't talking from a scientific perspective, we're talking philosophy

2019-09-02 05:12:07 UTC  

We had evidence of black holes, but couldn’t see them, why shouldn’t the same be expected