Message from @liquidnight

Discord ID: 630375090588221470


2019-10-06 11:32:16 UTC  

Slavery is violence

2019-10-06 11:37:19 UTC  

Wait i was just wondering do LCU dudes believe in enforcing equality of outcome?

2019-10-06 11:38:50 UTC  

The fuck an LCU?

2019-10-06 11:39:17 UTC  

<:hisss:621926352865460234>

2019-10-06 11:39:52 UTC  

I'm a 🅱ommu🅱ist

2019-10-06 11:41:18 UTC  

Chadskyite

2019-10-06 11:44:29 UTC  

Fun fact

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611780143530246155/630369787641593857/Zg7WMX9.jpg

2019-10-06 11:44:57 UTC  

@Mairon you talkin about Chomsky honks?

2019-10-06 11:48:36 UTC  
2019-10-06 11:56:44 UTC  

@Mairon I'm a communist

2019-10-06 12:00:27 UTC  

> [13:14] Thotsky: when we remove all unjustified hierarchies, treat each other as equals
I agree with that, but rather to leave equal rights for everyone.

I do not treat all others als equal. I do distinguish between man and woman, agree ?

2019-10-06 12:01:04 UTC  

that's not really what I meant and you know it

2019-10-06 12:02:42 UTC  

I pointed out the difference of "equalty" vs. equal granting rights to all others.
There is a problem in society (visible in china) to mold the biomass into *equal* units.

2019-10-06 12:03:23 UTC  

as I said, I don't understand your concept of rights

2019-10-06 12:03:42 UTC  

who "grants" rights? who's this arbiter who gets to decide what rights people should get?

2019-10-06 12:04:17 UTC  

also no that isn't what I meant by equality, we are not really talking about metaphysics

2019-10-06 12:04:20 UTC  

Ooh deep shyiet here

2019-10-06 12:04:24 UTC  

we are talking materially

2019-10-06 12:04:55 UTC  

I don't understand what you mean by "molding biomass into equal units"

2019-10-06 12:05:02 UTC  

the language used sounds queer

2019-10-06 12:05:33 UTC  

I mean not so much *to grant* but more *to leave* the natural rights to the others.

2019-10-06 12:06:25 UTC  

what natural rights?

2019-10-06 12:06:31 UTC  

you mean deontological ethics?

2019-10-06 12:08:33 UTC  

> 14:04] Thotsky: I don't understand what you mean by "molding biomass into equal units"

Biomass entities ("humans") are selected by government entities, and fitted into equal living conditions, and being subjected under introctrination to make them equal.


I am not sure about your "deontological ethics". Maybe there is no such expression.

Natural Rights ~== everything not doing harm to others.

2019-10-06 12:12:05 UTC  

So where in this do the rights of slaves fit?

2019-10-06 12:12:49 UTC  

slave is a not-rightful condition. bad premise, no answer.

2019-10-06 12:13:06 UTC  

Not rightful condition?

2019-10-06 12:13:12 UTC  

it's unnecessary for you to use such terms, but okay lol.

Firstly, there are no "biomass entities" selected by "government entities" and put into "equal living conditions", jesus christ. Given that the means of production are used to satisfy the needs of the workers instead of profit maximisation, there really is no incentive to deliver differing standards in regards to employment and education, they would be utilised for the well being of the community, so therefore equality of opportunity would be guaranteed for all.

2019-10-06 12:13:12 UTC  

GG @Leiro レイロ, you just advanced to level 2!

2019-10-06 12:13:33 UTC  

I don't believe in your natural rights, I'm a moral nihilist and I do not endorse such asinine nonsense.

2019-10-06 12:14:25 UTC  

also why can't slavery be a natural right? John Locke viewed slavery to be a natural right.

2019-10-06 12:14:37 UTC  

I have the natural rights, independent of you believing in them.
If you transgress them, I shoot you. No problem with that !

2019-10-06 12:15:08 UTC  

what do you mean by natural rights?

2019-10-06 12:15:46 UTC  

which omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient entity bestows upon us such natural rights?

2019-10-06 12:16:45 UTC  

if these rights were "natural", then 6 million Jews would not have been gassed

2019-10-06 12:17:10 UTC  

they require enforcement, which requires the existance of society, which means that human beings control how its enforced

2019-10-06 12:17:40 UTC  

so if we all come together and declare that our natural rights are null and void, that means it cannot be applied

2019-10-06 12:18:58 UTC  

> [14:15] Thotsky: what do you mean by natural rights?

See answer above. Additional:
https://thebiggestpicture.net/img/MarkPassio-NaturalLawTransgressionsRight.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYHyxJigwzQml9l5NAibjXJ9FZUnahl4qde7Pjvq_wEhc1-uER

> 14:15] Thotsky: which omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient entity bestows upon us such natural rights?
You might name that Nature or God, whatever you like more. (not the "god" of the old testament)


> 14:16] Thotsky: if these rights were "natural", then 6 million Jews would not have been gassed
Wrong conclusion.

2019-10-06 12:18:58 UTC  

GG @liquidnight, you just advanced to level 2!

2019-10-06 12:19:18 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ For the following comments: you engage in deceptive rhetoric