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> 13:10] Fuckers: humans are not equal but every human should have the same quality of life
1. ok
2. not ok.

"should have" --> I infer a communist system. like equality-by-violence.

uh no, they don't necessarily have to be achieved by violence

when we remove all unjustified hierarchies, treat each other as equals, and engage in mutual aid, the conditions for a free society automatically come about as everyone will create the material conditions necessary for a community to thrive, which is how equality of opportunity is created. No hierarchies, no inequality.

we are not disadvantaged, but neither is anyone privileged at the expense of another

you pretty much need equality for a free society to develop

@liquidnight

@liquidnight exploitation of workers is violence

Slavery is violence

Wait i was just wondering do LCU dudes believe in enforcing equality of outcome?

The fuck an LCU?

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I'm a 🅱ommu🅱ist

Chadskyite

Fun fact

@Mairon you talkin about Chomsky honks?

https://youtu.be/k7xclaa4vyc

@Mairon I'm a communist

> [13:14] Thotsky: when we remove all unjustified hierarchies, treat each other as equals
I agree with that, but rather to leave equal rights for everyone.

I do not treat all others als equal. I do distinguish between man and woman, agree ?

that's not really what I meant and you know it

I pointed out the difference of "equalty" vs. equal granting rights to all others.
There is a problem in society (visible in china) to mold the biomass into *equal* units.

as I said, I don't understand your concept of rights

who "grants" rights? who's this arbiter who gets to decide what rights people should get?

also no that isn't what I meant by equality, we are not really talking about metaphysics

Ooh deep shyiet here

we are talking materially

I don't understand what you mean by "molding biomass into equal units"

the language used sounds queer

I mean not so much *to grant* but more *to leave* the natural rights to the others.

what natural rights?

you mean deontological ethics?

> 14:04] Thotsky: I don't understand what you mean by "molding biomass into equal units"

Biomass entities ("humans") are selected by government entities, and fitted into equal living conditions, and being subjected under introctrination to make them equal.


I am not sure about your "deontological ethics". Maybe there is no such expression.

Natural Rights ~== everything not doing harm to others.

So where in this do the rights of slaves fit?

slave is a not-rightful condition. bad premise, no answer.

Not rightful condition?

it's unnecessary for you to use such terms, but okay lol.

Firstly, there are no "biomass entities" selected by "government entities" and put into "equal living conditions", jesus christ. Given that the means of production are used to satisfy the needs of the workers instead of profit maximisation, there really is no incentive to deliver differing standards in regards to employment and education, they would be utilised for the well being of the community, so therefore equality of opportunity would be guaranteed for all.

GG @Leiro レイロ, you just advanced to level 2!

I don't believe in your natural rights, I'm a moral nihilist and I do not endorse such asinine nonsense.

also why can't slavery be a natural right? John Locke viewed slavery to be a natural right.

I have the natural rights, independent of you believing in them.
If you transgress them, I shoot you. No problem with that !

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/06/locke-treatise-slavery-private-property/