Message from @gundagger

Discord ID: 636955875038199868


2019-10-23 23:29:59 UTC  

I'm going to make China so butt hurt.

2019-10-24 00:22:50 UTC  

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2019-10-24 00:22:59 UTC  

*They have the children*

2019-10-24 04:49:38 UTC  

Patient results with -blank-. Likely a result of -blank-.

2019-10-24 04:50:10 UTC  

Feminism and Daddy Issues

2019-10-24 05:49:16 UTC  

wow that place is selling kids at 40%-70% off

2019-10-24 06:11:25 UTC  

That’s why traps are the future

2019-10-24 06:11:25 UTC  

GG @Dragonspirit223, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-10-24 12:00:21 UTC  

hello

2019-10-24 12:00:28 UTC  

how ya all doing?

2019-10-24 12:01:16 UTC  

God I hate vegans

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2019-10-24 15:50:12 UTC  

@gundagger, what's your actual ideology again?

2019-10-24 15:50:39 UTC  

Why you ask?

2019-10-24 15:52:16 UTC  

I had a server that was looking for more members and it's more strict on newcomers to avoid raids.

2019-10-24 15:53:28 UTC  

Ah,I am technically Socailist in how I want production distribution to be handled. But providing free stuff in other people's backs is literally bulshit. I'm also voluntarist and anti marxist

2019-10-24 15:53:46 UTC  

So, more a market socialist?

2019-10-24 15:53:53 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-24 15:54:02 UTC  

But not mutualist

2019-10-24 15:54:13 UTC  

To me, libsocs are generally better than ancoms.

2019-10-24 15:55:01 UTC  

The server is mostly made of content regarding more AnCap stuff, with some lessons regarding understanding Marxism, so I'm not sure how interesting that'd be to you.

2019-10-24 15:55:14 UTC  

I'd be down

2019-10-24 15:56:17 UTC  

I take the voluntarist position and I also believe in private property but as I see it theoretically socialist one businesses could fizzle out such capitals ones

2019-10-24 15:56:35 UTC  

More in support of co-ops then?

2019-10-24 15:56:43 UTC  

Yeah

2019-10-24 15:56:53 UTC  

The only thing really stopping socialism from ever becoming great is force and monopolies

2019-10-24 15:57:18 UTC  

If 1 collectively grind group has a monopoly on a certain industry it'd be just as bad as a capitalist one

2019-10-24 15:57:18 UTC  

GG @gundagger, you just advanced to level 7!

2019-10-24 15:57:44 UTC  

From my experience with other socialists, you are putting out some very new points to me about it.

2019-10-24 15:58:06 UTC  

The main issue with socialism imo is that due to the individuality of people and the difficulty in production, it’s very difficult to get a socialist society to scale

2019-10-24 15:58:26 UTC  

Worker-coops and whatnot absolutely can work in a voluntarist way

2019-10-24 15:58:40 UTC  

But they don’t scale as well as top down models

2019-10-24 15:59:16 UTC  

Big business to be running sustainably requires a state and I'm talking about like multibillion-dollar businesses

2019-10-24 15:59:30 UTC  

Yes due to diseconomies of scale

2019-10-24 15:59:31 UTC  

I could see about adding some other channels for more Marx stuff if you want to post anything yourself besides in the lessons channel.

2019-10-24 15:59:32 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 5!

2019-10-24 16:01:50 UTC  

A more honest version of "capitalism cannot run without the state" or "capitalism requires the state" would be "mega corporations and capitalism as the world currently has cannot function without a state to back it"

2019-10-24 16:02:45 UTC  

Essentially.
I am opposed to intellectual property laws due to the support they give towards creating monopolies to begin with.

2019-10-24 16:02:57 UTC  

^

2019-10-24 16:03:21 UTC  

Well intellectual property abolitionist will be bad for big business it'll be good for the poor

2019-10-24 16:06:01 UTC  

Actually surprising to find a socialist who can see that the intellectual property is the result of state given privileges over certain companies, rather than what happens under a private company system.

2019-10-24 16:06:40 UTC  

Almost about as rare as finding someone who can see the u.s is oddly very regulated for a "free market" economy.