Message from @Hiruzen
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And it works, so all your further arguments are therefore invalid
>programming
😂
I've just started learning PHP and it seems kind of cool, why do people hate it so much
Probably hate boner and/or was shit in past therefore it cannot be improved at all so it must still be shit
lack of consistency, lack of predictability, bad performance, tied to request scope, silent type conversion, requirement of insane boilerplate error checking, bad implementation of dynamic capabilties etc etc etc there's much more
you can build working products with it but there's no reason to use it anymore
it used to be the most accessible tools back when servers weren't affordable and the world ran on shared-hosting services. But since this is no longer the case, you can use any more-sane language that can be as-easy-as php to use, but with far less flaws
most decisions of large enterprises to use PHP are based on the fact, that PHP workforce is among the cheapest
and while PHP is improving in the past years, they have a history of legacy behaviour to maintain, that is almost guaranteeing, that PHP will never reach the level of sanity of any related or similar language
I'd go that far and say almost everything else is a better choice than PHP when starting a new project
php bad
I'm pretty sure your meme and your whole 6 months of development experience just made you win that argument. I don't think there's a point in discussing with you, you've proven your resistance to learning and to advice more than once. I was answering to @Adam W
Because I will believe an argument once I see it with my own two eyes or check how it affects my work, yet so far none of points made that PHP is bad that you said, even with that blogpost, during all the time I spent with this language, none really affected the work to the point where it would be better to scrap the whole thing and go for something else. The only point I could say is true is that debug part of it is shite, which I'm not even sure was covered by someone else. Since right now it sounds more and more to me like bitter talk of "this language isn't the same as the one I like therefore it's shit" type of talk.
>all the time I've spent with that language
>learned to program in July
ok
>this language isn't the same as the one I like
I made absolutely clear arguments on the downsides of PHP
continue using it, you'll probably go far. Wikipedia, Facebook, Pornhub, 4chan etc use PHP. Nontheless I guarantee that you will some day face a problem of a complexity that can't be solved in PHP due to PHP's limitations. I'm not hating on anything
I've spent about 9 years in that business now, I've used a lot of languages that I like and even more that I don't like. Once you reach a certain bandwith of various languages you'll see that my points are not at all opinionated. Nontheless, it's a working tool. Just, there are better ones. You don't want to take me serious? Don't. It's not a loss for me
this is why I wasn't even answering to you in the first place. You've made it pretty clear that you want to stick with PHP, so do it
>want to stick with PHP
Except not really. I want to stick with what gives me money and work and right where I am, currently PHP is the best choice. All in all my point and the main point is that PHP **isn't bad**. Rather I would be alright with just the term **flawed** since I'm not so "resistant" as you said, some points in said blogpost I could say are okay, but I still haven't felt them to the point it would make me want to leave PHP behind and start furiously searching for a new job. My issue is that the way you worded it, sounded like using PHP instantly gives you a fuckton of code debt that would be solved by switching to other language. But then again I am not the best person to argue about it that much since at the end of the day I don't really care enough about a language to defend it since every language serves some use
I'm only seeing Porco making actual statements and points and sum saying "B-But I like it..."
People also say pineapple on pizza is shit
Yet it is not <:alismirk:230784726615588865>
i wonder if @bentech has one of these too https://www.aliexpress.com/item/JAXMAN-4-band-RGB-and-White-light-Optical-Zoom-inspection-flashlight/32909746311.html?
Lmao no
Looks cool though
yep
found that when i was searching if ali had any high-cri rgb(w) leds (just leds or strips for makeup mirror)
High cri red light :^)
if one just wants to go for Money, Java is a good choice actually
Yeah
you'll hit up 6-figure salaries within 3 years of experience in most of Europe
Normally pays the most out of the widely used languages
but then, I'd rather be homeless than do java
>Java
Yeah, what Oracle is doing to Java is kinda scary
Tho in London scala pays more and isnt that hard to find
tfw not in the CS meme field
isn't Scala just Java with some syntactic sugar?
i'm just a pharmafag <:pepeturt:499291994649133067>