Message from @futuremoe

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2019-02-04 15:44:32 UTC  

I think Lucene / Elastic etc might actually profit from that

2019-02-04 15:44:41 UTC  

because they need fast cores to operate, and many cores to scale

2019-02-04 15:44:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/527849695020580866/542007609071370240/2m1gm4ugnje21.png

2019-02-04 15:44:52 UTC  

Also a lot of VMs

2019-02-04 15:45:56 UTC  

imagine you're a webhoster, one of these (Let's say about 5k total investment to put the missing hardware inside) will make you be able to sell 128 VPS with 1 Core / 1 GB Ram @ 10 $ / month

2019-02-04 15:46:17 UTC  

=> 30k / year income

2019-02-04 15:46:40 UTC  

question would be if multiple boxes larger cost of footprint but cheaper total price be worth it

2019-02-04 15:46:48 UTC  

probably not cheaper

2019-02-04 15:46:59 UTC  

just a lower initial investment to get started

2019-02-04 15:47:09 UTC  

the $ / core count on EPYC is incredible

2019-02-04 15:47:40 UTC  

And selling 1 HT as 1 Core in a VPS is a standard since Microsoft and Amazon both do it

2019-02-04 15:47:48 UTC  

which means on that machine, you can sell up to 128 HTs

2019-02-04 15:48:33 UTC  

you're barely going to be more profitable than with that kind of set up. Also consider the costs for RHEL, Virtuozzo etc etc

2019-02-04 15:48:35 UTC  

implying they don't oversell cores

2019-02-04 15:48:41 UTC  

no they don't

2019-02-04 15:48:50 UTC  

i mean MS/Amazon don't

2019-02-04 15:48:52 UTC  

only small ISPs overcommit cores

2019-02-04 15:48:55 UTC  

but a lot of the small time ones do

2019-02-04 15:48:59 UTC  

yes sure

2019-02-04 15:49:04 UTC  

small ISPs overcommit cores and ram

2019-02-04 15:49:31 UTC  

budget on total is sub 1000 €. preferably under 700 €.

2019-02-04 15:49:32 UTC  

if you're a big company you don't care as much about $ / core count as you do as core count / watt

2019-02-04 15:49:38 UTC  

k8s makes you allocate "microcores". Basically 1/1000 of a core

2019-02-04 15:49:54 UTC  

so you could have each vm have 500 microcores

2019-02-04 15:50:01 UTC  

and actually sell 256 VPS

2019-02-04 15:50:07 UTC  

but then you would be a shit ISP

2019-02-04 15:50:51 UTC  

also a lot of software is paid per core count

2019-02-04 15:50:53 UTC  

well here we have 800 W (+800 W redundancy) for a system with 64 Cores. AMD is competitive in Watt/Core

2019-02-04 15:51:01 UTC  

not as relevant for vps hosting i guess

2019-02-04 15:51:11 UTC  

not RHEL and not Virtuozzo, so in a VPS hosting scenario this isn't relevant

2019-02-04 15:51:27 UTC  

and if I were to be a webhoster, I'd totally opt for a RHEL + Virtuozzo setup

2019-02-04 15:52:01 UTC  

Virtuozzo is paid per Node

2019-02-04 15:52:09 UTC  

with one license covering up to 5 nodes

2019-02-04 15:52:28 UTC  

the bottleneck here is that you pay the license for storage, the license includes 25 TB storage

2019-02-04 15:52:55 UTC  

Let's say you commit all 5 nodes to 100% (without overcommitting), you would have up to 1280 VPS / Virtuozzo license

2019-02-04 15:53:14 UTC  

but you can only allocate 20 GB / VPS

2019-02-04 15:56:30 UTC  

all our servers are hyper-v <:alismirk:230784726615588865>

2019-02-04 16:01:42 UTC  

🤢

2019-02-04 19:30:47 UTC  

i can connect to 4channel but not 4chan

2019-02-04 19:30:58 UTC  

is this a part of (((their))) plan

2019-02-04 19:34:25 UTC  

Hiro is up to something