Message from @porco

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2019-02-04 15:26:51 UTC  

although I could just add an ssh tunnel

2019-02-04 15:27:03 UTC  

and run it all on ubuntu server or smth

2019-02-04 15:27:14 UTC  

Let me shill you some HPE ProLiant MicroServer

2019-02-04 15:27:40 UTC  

it's more generic than your typical NAS since it's a server, but it's smol and has many bays

2019-02-04 15:27:45 UTC  

also not so expensive

2019-02-04 15:28:44 UTC  

you can obtain them with already built in ram and no disks for about 350 eur

2019-02-04 15:29:53 UTC  

sadly, the newer HPE MicroServers don't have ILO included anymore, ILO was nice

2019-02-04 15:30:22 UTC  

ILO is HP's web based hardware / system management tool

2019-02-04 15:30:38 UTC  

it runs on a firmware level so you can access it even if the system doesn't boot

2019-02-04 15:30:57 UTC  

but the newer "budget" HP servers like the MicroServer don't have it anymore

2019-02-04 15:31:22 UTC  

what's the budget anyway? (without disks)

2019-02-04 15:43:01 UTC  

tfw no dual epyc server

2019-02-04 15:44:03 UTC  

i wonder what situation you would need dual epycs

2019-02-04 15:44:14 UTC  

over just GPU accelerated server

2019-02-04 15:44:15 UTC  

posting screenfetch on /g/

2019-02-04 15:44:32 UTC  

I think Lucene / Elastic etc might actually profit from that

2019-02-04 15:44:41 UTC  

because they need fast cores to operate, and many cores to scale

2019-02-04 15:44:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/527849695020580866/542007609071370240/2m1gm4ugnje21.png

2019-02-04 15:44:52 UTC  

Also a lot of VMs

2019-02-04 15:45:56 UTC  

imagine you're a webhoster, one of these (Let's say about 5k total investment to put the missing hardware inside) will make you be able to sell 128 VPS with 1 Core / 1 GB Ram @ 10 $ / month

2019-02-04 15:46:17 UTC  

=> 30k / year income

2019-02-04 15:46:40 UTC  

question would be if multiple boxes larger cost of footprint but cheaper total price be worth it

2019-02-04 15:46:48 UTC  

probably not cheaper

2019-02-04 15:46:59 UTC  

just a lower initial investment to get started

2019-02-04 15:47:09 UTC  

the $ / core count on EPYC is incredible

2019-02-04 15:47:40 UTC  

And selling 1 HT as 1 Core in a VPS is a standard since Microsoft and Amazon both do it

2019-02-04 15:47:48 UTC  

which means on that machine, you can sell up to 128 HTs

2019-02-04 15:48:33 UTC  

you're barely going to be more profitable than with that kind of set up. Also consider the costs for RHEL, Virtuozzo etc etc

2019-02-04 15:48:35 UTC  

implying they don't oversell cores

2019-02-04 15:48:41 UTC  

no they don't

2019-02-04 15:48:50 UTC  

i mean MS/Amazon don't

2019-02-04 15:48:52 UTC  

only small ISPs overcommit cores

2019-02-04 15:48:55 UTC  

but a lot of the small time ones do

2019-02-04 15:48:59 UTC  

yes sure

2019-02-04 15:49:04 UTC  

small ISPs overcommit cores and ram

2019-02-04 15:49:31 UTC  

budget on total is sub 1000 €. preferably under 700 €.

2019-02-04 15:49:32 UTC  

if you're a big company you don't care as much about $ / core count as you do as core count / watt

2019-02-04 15:49:38 UTC  

k8s makes you allocate "microcores". Basically 1/1000 of a core

2019-02-04 15:49:54 UTC  

so you could have each vm have 500 microcores