Message from @plasticsword

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2018-03-27 22:12:20 UTC  

We have really low birth rate here :(

2018-03-27 22:13:56 UTC  

Mostly because young people are fuckin braindead and are too stupid to find a job so they go to work in a fish factory in the UK or Norway and stay there and start families there

2018-03-27 22:22:18 UTC  

People are sheeps in general

2018-03-27 22:22:27 UTC  

what have you expected

2018-03-27 22:22:53 UTC  

I am planning to leave Croatia because of better conditions of living and better pay

2018-03-27 22:23:31 UTC  

I assume some of those people in china do the same

2018-03-27 23:14:45 UTC  

@johnfrum it's really no problem with social security either in western nations. Maybe more in Asian nations. But many pensions can be cut in half and the pensioner will still live comfortably since his house is paid off and cost of living is low.

2018-03-27 23:15:27 UTC  

I don't know how house ownership works in Japan or Taiwan. But otherwise it wouldn't be a real problem. Just an aging demographic that needs to face reality

2018-03-27 23:25:00 UTC  

There were some scandals about government employees getting extremely high pensions very early but I can't find it anymore

2018-03-27 23:25:07 UTC  

In Taiwan

2018-03-27 23:53:47 UTC  

if you live in big cities in you're fucked

2018-03-27 23:57:28 UTC  

there's a fair bit of old people that live in poverty cause they got shit pension

2018-03-28 07:59:36 UTC  

Taiwan's retirement age is lower than most developed countire's retirement age

2018-03-28 07:59:44 UTC  

Workers retire at 61

2018-03-28 07:59:57 UTC  

But there are currently proposals to raise it to 65

2018-03-28 08:00:53 UTC  

Retirement age delay happens also in countries where the population is "increased" by immigration. It's likely that most people around the world that are 20-30 now will have a hard time retiring at today's age standards

2018-03-28 08:01:15 UTC  

On a side note, Taiwan's retirement system is a very good one, compared to the rest of Asia

2018-03-28 08:20:31 UTC  

you do those lottery things that Taiwan has?

2018-03-28 08:20:59 UTC  

like spend a certain amount and you get a lottery ticket

2018-03-28 08:42:07 UTC  

what do you mean? Doesn't lottery exist everywhere?

2018-03-28 08:46:41 UTC  

nah but instead of tax refund/rebate it goes into the government lottery

2018-03-28 08:48:44 UTC  

Ah I see

2018-03-28 08:49:16 UTC  

on every purchase, everywhere, you get a lottery code on your receipt and every few months they draw winning codes

2018-03-28 08:49:54 UTC  

that's done to fight tax evasion. People want those codes so shops have to declare the transaction

2018-03-28 08:54:39 UTC  

That's actually

2018-03-28 08:54:42 UTC  

Really smart

2018-03-28 08:54:43 UTC  

Wow uh

2018-03-28 08:56:42 UTC  

How high are the prizes you can win?

2018-03-28 09:15:12 UTC  

highest I won was 3 $

2018-03-28 12:21:41 UTC  

oh is that what it is

2018-03-28 12:21:42 UTC  

neat

2018-03-28 12:22:01 UTC  

what it was some weirdo tax thing

2018-03-28 12:22:16 UTC  

also heard you need a taiwanese id card for it though

2018-03-28 12:22:50 UTC  

Doesn't seem all that effective if they have low payouts

2018-03-28 12:23:35 UTC  

With a good accounting culture you wouldn't need this either

2018-03-28 12:36:12 UTC  

It's not about accounting, it's about corruption tho

2018-03-28 12:39:38 UTC  

Corruption with VAT right?

2018-03-28 13:59:10 UTC  

yes selling stuff without declaring the transaction. Taiwan's VAT is already really really low

2018-03-28 13:59:26 UTC  

Also it's have or not have on the money. People autistically collect those receips

2018-03-28 14:00:13 UTC  

Also you can donate your receips to monks or NGOs and they will cash them in if you have a winning number

2018-03-28 14:00:19 UTC  

on the night markets you usually have monks with baskets