"The Ecological Approach to Visual Perception" ? great read

the one I found at the thrift store was "Vision and Action" and it has these 3d renders of simulated AI dolphins doing tricks and stuff in it

perception of the visual world

thats sounds insanely cool

Gibsonian neuroscience/psych has giant implications for AI/software/hardware architectures, that's what I work on for my day job

so what should i be reading rn?

http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=161828 :: the perception of the visual world - jj gibson

what are you interested in?

whatever is the most terrifying thing you encounter at your day job

hmmmmmmm

https://twitter.com/KeIIyOubre/status/995874607658950657

there's some bits in a collection of distributed systems logic papers called "Inconsistency Robustness" about the politics of ontologies, and also that the surveillance/control state is probably going to program/implant biocomputational backdoors into our bodies (if they haven't already) the same way they've put them into computer hardware because it's all signaling systems

https://www.amazon.com/Inconsistency-Robustness-Studies-Logic-Hewitt/dp/1848901593 ?

yes, there's cheaper copies on ebay i believe tho

I will give this a look thank you

Carl Hewitt's publications since the late 60s are a fucking goldmine

Seems like I'm about to take a deep dive on this

idk your CS/math background but Carl Hewitt's shtick is that his supervisor professors from the AI scene in the 50s were either logicists or connectionists and he started talking to a bunch of sociologists and liberal arts people, ie he swapped Anglo logicism/naturalism for Bruno Latour's sociological theories

my background is logic via bertrand and studying law

ok lmao then this is going to blow your brain

nice to see big brain people in the chat

there's a chapter in there about how legal structures inspired his mode of distributed systems logic

I was gonna bring up that bio backdoor thing up on the sweat but that would have been too harsh of a blackpill

wait so is Godel full of shit

he was an hero

seemed like a sperg

he wasn't wrong his framework was just based mostly on first order theories rather than highr order ones

if you're reading the Hewitt book rn you'll notice the prevalence of Turing's model had a worse impact on the way we think about math/computers than Godel, Hewitt's actor model is a purer formulation of computation than Turing's

this is a bit above my head but maybe I'll give it a read

I bought the amazon copy I'd like to start readin gin hard copy more for my eyez

in short: Turing's model "a computer is anything that can be modeled by an equivalent turing machine which happens to be an infinite tape with memory addresses and mathematical constraints on how it functions according to blah blah principles..." Hewitt's model "a computer is anything that can respond to stimuli, keep memory, and stimulate another computer"

but im gonna save your comments for when it gets here

I'm not actually sure Turing himself made declarations about what a computer "is", but that Turing model is what's been plaguing our CS curricula since Dijkstra and the Unix asshats

Making a sandy with swiss cheese on it

Should i use mustard or mayo

both you goofball

yeah can we go back to shitposting this science stuff makes my head hurt

Both wtf

he's right use both

Okay

what kind of devil worshipper doesnt thinly spread mayo overone slice of bread and then lattice the interior of the sandwhich with mustard