Message from @inkwater

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2018-05-14 03:54:19 UTC  

but in a positive sense?

2018-05-14 03:54:39 UTC  

It seems weird to me that some professor who's known best for studying Jung would suddenly be consulting for the UN like how is his expertise relevant to the UN here? I have no idea how the UN works I'm just curious.

2018-05-14 03:54:41 UTC  

an mk ultra program but by the good guys

2018-05-14 03:55:44 UTC  

the actual video is here, I had forgot all about this, Autistic Mercury broke this theory months ago before all this recent suspicion arose

2018-05-14 03:56:44 UTC  

beauracracies are so convoluted I've known macro economists who have consulted on mount vernon type projects for final reports on who should be taken to safety duringa a nuclear strike

2018-05-14 03:57:08 UTC  

if you're interested in neuroscience, J.J. Gibson is actually a great read, after this article came out I found a book at a thrift store about Gibsonian neuroscience in the motor-vision-reflex system

2018-05-14 03:57:14 UTC  

a psychoanalyst on migration?

2018-05-14 03:57:24 UTC  

might be obliquely related

2018-05-14 03:57:45 UTC  

yeah that book he mentions about visual perception is good

2018-05-14 03:57:58 UTC  

let me upload it here actually

2018-05-14 03:58:51 UTC  

"The Ecological Approach to Visual Perception" ? great read

2018-05-14 03:59:39 UTC  

the one I found at the thrift store was "Vision and Action" and it has these 3d renders of simulated AI dolphins doing tricks and stuff in it

2018-05-14 03:59:44 UTC  

perception of the visual world

2018-05-14 04:00:06 UTC  

thats sounds insanely cool

2018-05-14 04:01:14 UTC  

Gibsonian neuroscience/psych has giant implications for AI/software/hardware architectures, that's what I work on for my day job

2018-05-14 04:01:44 UTC  

so what should i be reading rn?

2018-05-14 04:01:57 UTC  

http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=161828 :: the perception of the visual world - jj gibson

2018-05-14 04:01:59 UTC  

what are you interested in?

2018-05-14 04:02:26 UTC  

whatever is the most terrifying thing you encounter at your day job

2018-05-14 04:02:46 UTC  

hmmmmmmm

2018-05-14 04:08:06 UTC  

there's some bits in a collection of distributed systems logic papers called "Inconsistency Robustness" about the politics of ontologies, and also that the surveillance/control state is probably going to program/implant biocomputational backdoors into our bodies (if they haven't already) the same way they've put them into computer hardware because it's all signaling systems

2018-05-14 04:09:36 UTC  

yes, there's cheaper copies on ebay i believe tho

2018-05-14 04:09:52 UTC  

I will give this a look thank you

2018-05-14 04:09:54 UTC  

Carl Hewitt's publications since the late 60s are a fucking goldmine

2018-05-14 04:10:14 UTC  

Seems like I'm about to take a deep dive on this

2018-05-14 04:12:58 UTC  

idk your CS/math background but Carl Hewitt's shtick is that his supervisor professors from the AI scene in the 50s were either logicists or connectionists and he started talking to a bunch of sociologists and liberal arts people, ie he swapped Anglo logicism/naturalism for Bruno Latour's sociological theories

2018-05-14 04:14:18 UTC  

my background is logic via bertrand and studying law

2018-05-14 04:14:28 UTC  

ok lmao then this is going to blow your brain

2018-05-14 04:14:29 UTC  

nice to see big brain people in the chat

2018-05-14 04:15:11 UTC  

there's a chapter in there about how legal structures inspired his mode of distributed systems logic

2018-05-14 04:20:14 UTC  

I was gonna bring up that bio backdoor thing up on the sweat but that would have been too harsh of a blackpill

2018-05-14 04:27:30 UTC  

wait so is Godel full of shit

2018-05-14 04:28:49 UTC  

he was an hero

2018-05-14 04:30:39 UTC  

seemed like a sperg

2018-05-14 04:30:43 UTC  

he wasn't wrong his framework was just based mostly on first order theories rather than highr order ones

2018-05-14 04:33:01 UTC  

if you're reading the Hewitt book rn you'll notice the prevalence of Turing's model had a worse impact on the way we think about math/computers than Godel, Hewitt's actor model is a purer formulation of computation than Turing's

2018-05-14 04:34:13 UTC  

this is a bit above my head but maybe I'll give it a read

2018-05-14 04:37:59 UTC  

I bought the amazon copy I'd like to start readin gin hard copy more for my eyez