Message from @HotGore
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but its a thing hispanics do
Yeah
certain prot churches in south america have that problem too
due to the geography, rome has had a difficult time maintaining order
weird versions of Pentecostalism
there is a kinda "folk catholicism" or whatever you want to call it
once you start talking about angels more than Christ, you're basically a pagan
yup
God is the only one you worship
yeah that is true
i read a guy's experiences in the congo as a diplomat, in the 90s i think
the way they treat religion there is very odd. they will go to a catholic priest for healing one week and back to the witch doctor to curse some rival the next
to them God is just another pagan diety to go to for something they want
I imagine the early church was similar in rome and the rest of europe
stomping that out probably just takes patience and commitment
idk, i think for political issues that syncretization didnt seem to happen. you had gnostics but they were a flash in the pan.
also, paganism was on the down turn at the time of early christianity, most upper class people were becoming fedoras essentially
paganism wasnt taken seriously as a religion. it was something you gave lip service to for civic reasons, and the lower classes had their superstitions.
generally the countries enforced the faith and wiped out heretics, but there was never really strong, long term control in africa, asia or south america
you just did it because it was the culture
the Spaniards did a really good job stomping out paganism
they went to the new world shortly after removing islam from spain
@HotGore the upper classes especially were very philosophically inclined, the strongest beliefs at the time for very educated people was neoplatonism
nifty
well neoplatonism was 3rd century, probably at the time of christ it was just platonism
neoplatonism was sort of monotheistic
I read a lot of stoicism from the romans, the upper classes don't seem to have a strong faith, except in the idea of logos
gnosticism was a sort of bastardized neoplatonism with jewish and christian stuff mixed in
new age basically
there also seemed to be a lot of atheism in rome as well before christ
augustine was a neoplatonist before he converted to christianity
originally he was manichean
so those ideas had some influence on the church, not necessarily in a bad way
yeah very true
christians identified the Monad as YHVH
augustine showed that truth from non catholics can still be truth, from a theological standpoint
so it wasnt too difficult for neoplatonists to convert
because in terms of the actual identity of the One was not really expounded on
then Christians come around and they are the only real monotheists