Message from @HotGore

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2018-05-27 18:50:20 UTC  

I'd really love to believe the WN, but it is obvious to anyone who has some experience with humanity that race does not equal merit

2018-05-27 18:50:31 UTC  

they would love you instantly if you were catholic

2018-05-27 18:50:56 UTC  

being catholic units all catholics, since we all share the same teachings and rituals

2018-05-27 18:51:09 UTC  

I can go to a mass in any country and know what is happening, even without knowing the language

2018-05-27 18:51:29 UTC  

a lot of hispanics IME aren't very catholic or religious

2018-05-27 18:51:34 UTC  

especially young people, its the same as whites

2018-05-27 18:51:52 UTC  

yeah, middle age or older seem to be the most catholic

2018-05-27 18:52:07 UTC  

probably when you come to understand in life the power of faith

2018-05-27 18:52:35 UTC  

not even getting into the shit with narco saints

2018-05-27 18:52:42 UTC  

lol yeah

2018-05-27 18:52:56 UTC  

or the weird pagan syncretism you get

2018-05-27 18:53:02 UTC  

yeah, the churches from mexico south get some weird shit

2018-05-27 18:53:03 UTC  

and im not saying thats a catholic thing

2018-05-27 18:53:10 UTC  

but its a thing hispanics do

2018-05-27 18:53:16 UTC  

Yeah

2018-05-27 18:53:20 UTC  

certain prot churches in south america have that problem too

2018-05-27 18:53:21 UTC  

due to the geography, rome has had a difficult time maintaining order

2018-05-27 18:53:29 UTC  

weird versions of Pentecostalism

2018-05-27 18:53:43 UTC  

there is a kinda "folk catholicism" or whatever you want to call it

2018-05-27 18:53:43 UTC  

once you start talking about angels more than Christ, you're basically a pagan

2018-05-27 18:53:52 UTC  

yup

2018-05-27 18:53:59 UTC  

@HotGore its the same in africa too

2018-05-27 18:54:08 UTC  

God is the only one you worship

2018-05-27 18:54:13 UTC  

yeah that is true

2018-05-27 18:54:15 UTC  

i read a guy's experiences in the congo as a diplomat, in the 90s i think

2018-05-27 18:54:41 UTC  

the way they treat religion there is very odd. they will go to a catholic priest for healing one week and back to the witch doctor to curse some rival the next

2018-05-27 18:54:58 UTC  

to them God is just another pagan diety to go to for something they want

2018-05-27 18:55:08 UTC  

I imagine the early church was similar in rome and the rest of europe

2018-05-27 18:55:34 UTC  

stomping that out probably just takes patience and commitment

2018-05-27 18:55:41 UTC  

idk, i think for political issues that syncretization didnt seem to happen. you had gnostics but they were a flash in the pan.

2018-05-27 18:56:06 UTC  

also, paganism was on the down turn at the time of early christianity, most upper class people were becoming fedoras essentially

2018-05-27 18:56:31 UTC  

paganism wasnt taken seriously as a religion. it was something you gave lip service to for civic reasons, and the lower classes had their superstitions.

2018-05-27 18:56:38 UTC  

generally the countries enforced the faith and wiped out heretics, but there was never really strong, long term control in africa, asia or south america

2018-05-27 18:56:49 UTC  

yup, even the romans didnt believe it

2018-05-27 18:56:56 UTC  

you just did it because it was the culture

2018-05-27 18:56:59 UTC  

the Spaniards did a really good job stomping out paganism

2018-05-27 18:57:33 UTC  

they went to the new world shortly after removing islam from spain

2018-05-27 18:57:33 UTC  

@HotGore the upper classes especially were very philosophically inclined, the strongest beliefs at the time for very educated people was neoplatonism

2018-05-27 18:57:51 UTC  

nifty

2018-05-27 18:57:58 UTC  

well neoplatonism was 3rd century, probably at the time of christ it was just platonism

2018-05-27 18:58:19 UTC  

neoplatonism was sort of monotheistic