bal output, not that its super important

but form factor looks better

if you want something not batter powered and smaller form factor, the SMSL idea measures incredibly well

@aebkop

oh yeah smsl

hmm

wow

its even got a remote contrl

I had a Fiio and it just kind of stopped working

o7

can anyone recommend some good chonger headphones?

looking for sub 50USD

superlux from the infographic

I got some (admittedly very cheap) Superlux in-ears and I was pretty disappointed tbh

are there over-ear a lot better?

which in ears?

the superlux inears are a copy of old sony ones

never were very highly regarded

also in typical superlux fashion there's like 6 versions of them

@HEKTIK https://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-BW-ES1-Graphene-In-ear-Sound-Wired-Control-Earphone-With-Microphone-p-1110873.html?rmmds=detail-bottom-alsobought

thoughts?

there's even a freq measure on the product page

I can't decode it cause im not audiofag but hey

seems like very V-shaped

base and treble but only up to a point then they fall off a cliff

@Droidbot frequency response means nothing without knowing what coupler and setup used.

that said, if theyre using something IEC 711 compliant, it looks reasonably okay

standard V shaped IEM

FR doesnt mean eveything of course though

but theyre using graphene drivers (likely a composite with something else), which tend to be quite good

hm

might see if audiobudget can get a sample of em

message him about em

he has a fairly big backlog tho iirc

i really wish he'd stop using something with a 10 ohm output impedance, and use a 711 coupler tho

The fit and build of those blitzwolf IEMs seems pretty reasonable tho, other than the cable

but cables are always the issue with cheap IEMs

according to some dude on head fi the zs3s sound better

he got a review sample

They're mediocre at best

When all my current chinkshit arrives imma get some XE800s