2266 The efforts of the state to curb the spread of behavior harmful to people's rights and to the basic rules of civil society correspond to the requirement of safeguarding the common good. Legitimate public authority has the right and duty to inflict punishment proportionate to the gravity of the offense. Punishment has the primary aim of redressing the disorder introduced by the offense. When it is willingly accepted by the guilty party, it assumes the value of expiation. Punishment then, in addition to defending public order and protecting people's safety, has a medicinal purpose: as far as possible, it must contribute to the correction of the guilty party.67

2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

im sure there are liberal priests against it

Yeah so it’s saying that something like self defense is justified.

no its specifically talking about the state

If they are going to keep killing more people and death is the only way to stop them

Like war

the first 5 words say "the efforts of the state"

Idk man I’m not an expert but that’s just what I’ve been taught. I’m not completely disagreeing I’ve just never heard this view

all good

r u protestant?

Nah Roman Catholic

cradle?

What’s that

were u born catholic

or converted

Yeah born catholic. Willingly still here tho

yeah

im converting rn

That’s awesome man congrats

What sparked the conversion?

nick

made me think about religion again

i was an athiest

read aquinas and classical theism... convinced me

Good to hear. Whatever works man that’s great. I was pretty lukewarm for a while but I’m all in now. Art actually helped me.

how so

You ever see some of Owen Cyclops stuff

Gonna go put the depression bucket on my head and get the depression sucked out of me.

yeah i follow him

good account

Yeah his art and some other stuff similar piqued my interest and it just progressed. Made me realize how cool some stuff can be.

The bucket probably gives you more depression to sell more pills

hes got the christian aesthetic down for sure

I doubt it gives you depression but it probably makes you autistic.

But I'm already autistic so either nothing happens or I become autistic enough to go on the dole.

This server made me autistic

Sounds weird but one thing that makes you really want to be catholic is when you hear and see stories ab demons

Study that shit and some occult stuff and you’ll want some protection. Hence Catholicism

yeah... u realize how fucked the world is rn.... we look forward to the world to come

I know someone who was semi possessed. Had family live in a haunted house too no joke

oh shit