Message from @Jejune
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@Joe the boomer Yeah, I've learned to not practice idolatry because it's wrong. How about you? How many images do YOU worship? How many vain repetitions do you do? I am saved by grace through faith. Meanwhile you believe your works will save. Sorry but you will go to hell for that.
Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Recite our Lord's holy scripture all you want dude, it will never fit your feeble and heretical understanding
Yeah cause the Bible is SO complicated
That's why hundreds of years and multiple councils needed to present it
you're wrong
lol
the Bible is incredibly simple and straightforward. And God made it that way on purpose so we could become saved all the easier
Acts 16:
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
You don't even know what faith implies dude
There's no grand deep meaning in John 3:16 either. Christ is saying simply to believe in him and you will have eternal life.
belief
faith
if you think the bible is too hard to understand you clearly don't read it
God would never want to confuse us or make the Bible to difficult for anybody to understand. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar trying to control you.
you clearly know nothing of faith
How?
do you know how the original translates?
yes
pisteis
now tell me in detail what that implies
In Greek mythology, Pistis /ˈpɪstɪs/ (Πίστις) was the personification of good faith, trust and reliability. In Christianity and in the New Testament, pistis is the word for "faith". The word is mentioned together with such other personifications as elpis (Hope), sophrosyne (Prudence), and the charites, who were all associated with honesty and harmony among people.[1]
I believe in Jesus Christ. I know that I'm a sinner who deserves to burn in hell. And I know that ONLY because of Christ am I given the grace to have life everslating. And not by any of my works but by Christ alone. I trust in Christ's offering of his life and that alone is enough to save me.
yes thanks for copying that
that has no relation to what you imply though
if you believe in jesus you'll believe in what he says as well
Yeah it's easy enough to understand the first time. Again the Bible, ESPECIALLY salvation, us incredibly simple that a child could understand it
Alright
and in believing what he says you will follow
So what does he say when he says St. Peter is the rock?
is teh catholic church the whore of babylon
cool
possessed by demonic gay priest mafia
amazing
heretical pope
pro mass immigration
1 Peter 2
7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
peter also calls Jesus a rock here
irish and italian (non-white)
petros is stone and petra is rock
which is why Jesus says "thou art Peter (stone), and upon this rock I will build my church"
rather than "thou art rock, and upon this rock I will build my church"
or "thou art Petros, and upon this Petros I will build my church"
^that's what the Greek should have said if peter was the foundation
Look up the Greek Petros and you'll see it refers to a small rock or pebble in contrast to Petra which would be a large boulder or cliff
4074 Pétros (a masculine noun) – properly, a stone (pebble), such as a small rock found along a pathway. 4074 /Pétros ("small stone") then stands in contrast to 4073 /pétra ("cliff, boulder," Abbott-Smith).
"4074 (Pétros) is an isolated rock and 4073 (pétra) is a cliff" (TDNT, 3, 100). "4074 (Pétros) always means a stone . . . such as a man may throw, . . . versus 4073 (pétra), a projecting rock, cliff" (S. Zodhiates, Dict).
that's why the KJV never translates the name Petros as "rock" because the translators assigned Petra to "rock" Petros elsewhere is translated as stone, as in stoning