New fuel sources doesn't immediately, nor automatically translate to lower fuel prices.

It's all relative.

A new fuel source is indicative of a greater product with largely underdeveloped technology. It *might* stimulate the market, but people will largely be opting out regardless until it becomes viable after extensive testing in a wide array of variables. And that "underdeveloped" technology is going to be pricey for some arbitrary period of time.

also people don't immediately adopt it https://i.imgur.com/omQegsK.png

even though it's cheaper

@[DGI]tech
Ok, a couple of good points;
The tech has to come into fullness, but that will happen relatively quickly *IF* circumstances force us to; Case study, synthetic rubber.
The arbitrary period is just that; Arbitrary, it will go up or down based on flipping a coin. If we're forced to adjust (which sooner or later we will be), that period will be longer and the pre-change to change price difference will be a lot closer together

Right, fuel and products might be cheaper. How does this solve the whole minimum wage and UBI thing though

that's the magic i'm talking about

...
Before bread, milk, butter, and coffee cost say $45.
Now it costs say $32.
Your minimum wage effectively just rose, without changing the minimum wage.

All fair. There has to be a demand for companies to chain in a supply. Granted, electric cars while neat and good do have a lot of "bad" per-say on the back-end generating that electricity.

More technology and advancements!

*"bad' on the back end"* And then there's that... 😏

Okay

I understand everything gets cheaper

therefore your wage increases

most of people's paychecks doesn't go to products like that though

Personally, the whole "raise min wage" is just going to effectively expedite companies want to remove human processing.

"Here's your replacement."

And/or outsource labor to asia

But, some area's COL is retarded.

I also dislike the idea of outsourcing.

But alas.

@[DGI]tech
Reduce cost of living, and ¿what happens? 😉

Again i don't understand your meaning

this should give you an idea of the limitations of long distance Tesla driving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_naDg-guomA

can you explain why he's so worked up about that road?

so i don't have to watch the whole thing to figure out the context

why this particular road? not sure, but then I only watched 45mins of it so I don't know what the "biggest mistake" was.

btw, each charging stop is about 2.5hrs apart, spending 40-50mins each stop to charge at 240v, 40 amp outlets

Electric cars are a little weird in that you can increase their efficiency by going really slow. Wind resistance becomes a significant factor for them at highway speeds. So guys that try to set range records drive across the desert with no AC and windows up at 20mph

internal combustion cars are the same though

@Just for youtube [NB1]
It's a long, lonely country (sorta) road.
@C1PHER
Nothing weird about increased efficiency at low speeds; Ships routinely reduce speed if the delivery time isn't specified.

Maybe I'm just thinking of "city vs highway" fuel ratings then. ICE cars usually have better highway ratings

Because of running at stop lights and acceleration

mainly

most cars are most fuel efficient at like 35mph

30 even

Fuel effeciency was the original reason for the federal 55mph speed limit...

And braking. Any time you hit the brakes you are turning useful mechanical energy directly into heat. You brake often in the city, much less often on the highway if you are driving correctly. @C1PHER if you could drive a constant 40-50 mph in the city without braking you'd get fantastic mileage, much better than the freeway because wind resistance goes up by the cube of your airspeed.

The braking thing is why hybrid cars with regen brakes often get as good or even better mileage in city than they do freeway. They recycle most of their braking energy instead of burning it off as heat.

shouldn't be braking all that much in the city either