So it's not just getting the felony and going to jail, you also have no store left once you get out of jail lol

@Mandatory Carry maybe youre being tongue-in-cheek, but know that if youre serious, then it would be a crime

If you prove she has intent to kill then it could be justified to shoot on sight

@Just for youtube [NB1] and even if you transfered the business to a friend/relative, you wouldnt be able to work there as a felon. rip

@Just for youtube [NB1] for sure, if theres a legit threat

Otherwise I'm pretty sure you can't shoot someone for failing to comply with a restraining order as far as I know, plus i don't have proof there's even a restraining order

maybe he knows something we dont

there is one

but its for the business

There's officially a restraining order in writing to ban her from the premises?

yes

And loitering outside etc

storefront and parking area

Okay can you just shoot someone for walking into your store at that point lol

i would say you cant

just for that alone

there would have to be more there

Yeah

hes typing, so im sure we will see more details here soon

He's been typing for a while doing his bold and italics and upside down punctuation

But maybe there are real threats

lol, hes gotta have that extra flair

maybe

Last I heard about that story was like 7 months ago

Could have developed a lot further

maybe. i doubt it, but crazier things have happened

the fact that its a storefront vs a home does change the dynamic tho.

someone shows up in your house and you have a restraining order, well i say open fire and tally ho!

load the grapeshot

@Big T
Don't know what video YOU saw, but the one *I* saw was her testing resolve_ *"¿How far can I go before I provoke a response? ¿How far do I have to* 'jump' *when I plan to strike?"*
There's a really INTERESTING documentry on exactly this; Ninjas v. SWAT as assasination tactics. Damn that I can't remember the name, but I *think* it was Best Warrior or something *like* that.
That it happened a year ago is hardly relevant; Some of the 9/11 hijackers had been in the US over a year at the time.
@Just for youtube [NB1]
Sarcastically calling me a liar for pointing out what observable behavior indicates, seriously demanding they sit there and wait for a terrorist to start shooting before they start protecting themselves.
But yes, #MandatoryCarry saves lives. Antifa kills.

If self-defense is a felony in Washington State, you're already dead.
I'm sorry. I really am.

(¿Did you read my typing?)

I think a woman could get away with shooting a guy if he doesnt comply with a restraining order. If its night and he comes close to her she could claim she felt threatened and would propably get away with it, no?

It's not self defense

at least she wouldnt get a harsh punishment

If she's not carrying some deadly weapon or making threats

No self defense

Illegal in all states

Not just Washington

You cannot just shoot her

Even with the restraining order

@Mandatory Carry
her skirting the line and walking onto the parking lot property is not a justification for shooting her. PERIOD. idc what ninjas do, as that does not have any relevance to this situation. she is not an assassin. temporal proximity is absolutely relevant in determining imminent threats, by definition. self defense is not a felony, it is a legal defense to violence.

@scaevola she could claim self defense, and would then have to show that she had reasonably feared for her life, as well as articulate the imminent deadly force.