Message from @Goose

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2019-07-08 04:08:32 UTC  

Just something about how "whites" never thought of themselves as a cohesive group til around WWII

2019-07-08 04:08:39 UTC  

ehhh?

2019-07-08 04:08:57 UTC  

partly facilitated by sociologists working for US govt under auspices of census data collection and army cohesion

2019-07-08 04:09:02 UTC  

maybe not cohesive in that they fought each other, but enough to separate from non whites

2019-07-08 04:09:10 UTC  

Heard that somewhere on the Renegade History podcast

2019-07-08 04:09:27 UTC  

like the greeks

2019-07-08 04:09:30 UTC  

I think there's good reason to consider that whites were not cohesive til then either

2019-07-08 04:09:32 UTC  

fought each other to no end

2019-07-08 04:09:34 UTC  

Whiteness may not have existed then, but it exists now and the whole world knows it whether whites want to admit it or not. (And in any case the founding fathers even used the term.)

2019-07-08 04:09:40 UTC  

but still saw others as non greeks

2019-07-08 04:09:42 UTC  

people were pretty cohesive with their native ethnic units

2019-07-08 04:09:54 UTC  

a lot of my family spoke German up until WWI

2019-07-08 04:10:06 UTC  

Bit further back I think it was 1880s or so based around when internationalism kick started. You can look at the literature of "the whites versus the yellows" by the British.

2019-07-08 04:10:30 UTC  

Before that point though you still had the European continental wars where everyone thought everyone else was subhuman

2019-07-08 04:10:37 UTC  

its all murky. when germany allied with japan they called them the yellow aryans

2019-07-08 04:10:53 UTC  

So I guess you could say nationalism brought about white identity 🤔

2019-07-08 04:10:55 UTC  

A more and more integrated world means new designations and ethnic amalgamations will be recognized

2019-07-08 04:11:10 UTC  

when they allied with persia, they changed to country to iran, meaning the land of the ayrans, or so I read

2019-07-08 04:11:18 UTC  

^^ This brings up a good point

2019-07-08 04:11:24 UTC  

Tell that to the balkans

2019-07-08 04:11:28 UTC  

Make Iran Greater Again

2019-07-08 04:11:40 UTC  

Make Iran Persia again

2019-07-08 04:11:43 UTC  

Pakistan shouldn't be a country

2019-07-08 04:11:48 UTC  

it isn't

2019-07-08 04:11:54 UTC  

Hah

2019-07-08 04:11:54 UTC  

or wait

2019-07-08 04:11:59 UTC  

wrong country

2019-07-08 04:12:06 UTC  

Kurdistan?

2019-07-08 04:12:12 UTC  

Balochistan?

2019-07-08 04:12:12 UTC  

nah palestein

2019-07-08 04:12:13 UTC  

Probably Palestine

2019-07-08 04:12:20 UTC  

lol stein

2019-07-08 04:12:49 UTC  

Goldsteinbergwitzenthalblatt

2019-07-08 04:12:56 UTC  

Madagascar?

2019-07-08 04:13:03 UTC  

folks I think we're real close to redrawing all the borders to where they ought to be

2019-07-08 04:13:06 UTC  

Palebaum. Paleberg....

2019-07-08 04:13:08 UTC  

lets keep it up

2019-07-08 04:13:31 UTC  

Saudi Arabia

2019-07-08 04:13:32 UTC  

fun fact, in german, the word for castle and hill are the same word

2019-07-08 04:13:37 UTC  

or maybe it used to be

2019-07-08 04:13:47 UTC  

so every town on a hill is something berg