Message from @tomhastherage

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2019-07-21 00:19:13 UTC  

Haha, maybe. It would basically be an extension of the idea of city, county, state, and national govts right?

2019-07-21 00:19:34 UTC  

no, because at every point higher than village, you no longer have a connection to your constituents

2019-07-21 00:19:38 UTC  

The United Tribes of America?

2019-07-21 00:20:17 UTC  

the purpose of the US was to prevent consolidation of power, and through the inaction of the citizenry and the meddling of the "well meaning" that experiment has slowly been failing

2019-07-21 00:20:24 UTC  

the intended, inbuilt reset button was not pressed

2019-07-21 00:20:52 UTC  

so the question is: did it need a better reset button, or did it need to be harder to fuck up, or neither, or both?

2019-07-21 00:21:17 UTC  

So you think the US is slowly consolidating power over time?

2019-07-21 00:21:35 UTC  

I know it has. It's verifiable

2019-07-21 00:22:37 UTC  

Even though that power is spread out between more representatives and senators and judges and brauracrats than ever?

2019-07-21 00:22:50 UTC  

Beauracrats

2019-07-21 00:23:20 UTC  

More agencies. More commities

2019-07-21 00:23:27 UTC  

More of everything

2019-07-21 00:23:30 UTC  

You're aware that federal powers have grown over time yes? Rights have been slowly chipped away at, and States continually lose power over the US timeline

2019-07-21 00:23:53 UTC  

that the Federal Government hires a fuckton of people doesnt really negate the consolidation of power since the country was formed

2019-07-21 00:24:39 UTC  

But the president. The supposed leader of the federal government seems to be almost powerless to actually get anything done

2019-07-21 00:24:57 UTC  

Isn't that weird?

2019-07-21 00:25:09 UTC  

that's not really true either

2019-07-21 00:25:10 UTC  

Its the system working as intended.

2019-07-21 00:25:22 UTC  

The president doesn’t make the laws.

2019-07-21 00:25:23 UTC  

@Nucleonso its good?

2019-07-21 00:26:07 UTC  

Is it true or not?

2019-07-21 00:26:23 UTC  

We have no wall from trump

2019-07-21 00:26:33 UTC  

There are checks and balances, but how much power comparatively to those checks and balances should he have?

2019-07-21 00:26:36 UTC  

We didn't get universal healthcare from obama

2019-07-21 00:27:01 UTC  

The president is the enforcer of laws and a figurehead for the nation. His job never was to “get things done” but its made to be such a big deal because its just one person compared to hundreds of reps & senators.

2019-07-21 00:27:11 UTC  

Is the system supposed to ruin all attempts at change?

2019-07-21 00:27:33 UTC  

yes, the system is supposed to avoid change

2019-07-21 00:27:40 UTC  

The system was meant to put Congress, the states, ahead of one head figure.

2019-07-21 00:28:14 UTC  

in fact the design of the system is such that the central government only receives power if 2/3rd of the states (not just a simple majority) agree that they should

2019-07-21 00:28:14 UTC  

Yet those systems at play are becoming increasingly corrupt.

2019-07-21 00:28:22 UTC  

And quite literally bicker.

2019-07-21 00:28:43 UTC  

what they never counted on is states being willing to give away power to avoid responsiblity

2019-07-21 00:29:31 UTC  

So why not eliminate the useless federal bickerers and let the states run themselves?

2019-07-21 00:29:49 UTC  

in theory most of what people bitch about in the US, should be getting directed at their state and local government, not the federal

2019-07-21 00:29:51 UTC  

the border wall is being built, as far as I can tell, it's just slow

2019-07-21 00:30:02 UTC  

you want universal healthcare, do it at the state level

2019-07-21 00:30:12 UTC  

Lol. I do not

2019-07-21 00:30:19 UTC  

It was an example

2019-07-21 00:30:42 UTC  

Because then we get what happens in the early 1800’s where the states don’t have any reason to listen or to help each other.

2019-07-21 00:31:15 UTC  

the original design was to largely reduce the federal bickering topics to a minimum, if I understand correctly