Message from @Lord Zedd

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2019-07-25 17:45:01 UTC  

WAHT TOY STORY 4

2019-07-25 17:45:03 UTC  

And now we have the slowest box office in 2 decades

2019-07-25 17:45:06 UTC  

what rock have i been living under

2019-07-25 17:45:29 UTC  

I've been living under the rock known as work

2019-07-25 17:45:42 UTC  

I saw a kid on the bus the other day with a Sporky toy and it got me thinking how that would work within the universe

2019-07-25 17:45:45 UTC  

Disney is like those giant irons from FLCL. Just sterilizing everything so we're all dumb paypigs for shit entertainment

2019-07-25 17:45:52 UTC  

what happens to toys of toys story characters?

2019-07-25 17:46:10 UTC  

especially ones that professionally made toy versions of amateur toys

2019-07-25 17:46:41 UTC  

eh if they make good stuff I'll watch it, if not I won't same rule as always for me

2019-07-25 17:47:09 UTC  

mass quantity doesn't necessarily mean low quality

2019-07-25 17:47:12 UTC  

but I doubt they'll see big returns for long if they flood with 3 remakes a year

2019-07-25 17:47:45 UTC  

they used to do remakes/sequels to hold onto rights but Lion King was probably 80+ years away from that

2019-07-25 17:48:13 UTC  

is the profit from the remakes more than what they'd get for a remaster release?

2019-07-25 17:48:17 UTC  

Disney now has until 2023 to figure out how to extend that date once again. Enter Steamboat Willy, the first Mickey Mouse cartoon and the first animated short by Walt Disney in 1928. Under the 1909 Copyright scheme, the Mickey Mouse character had copyright protection for 56 years (with the renewal), expiring in 1984

2019-07-25 17:48:37 UTC  

Mickey Mouse as Public Domain?!!??! NAY SAY DIZNAY

2019-07-25 17:49:42 UTC  

hmm I'd imagine some non disney cartoons would be pushing into public domain by now like Little Lulu or Felix

2019-07-25 17:51:21 UTC  

they still have a trademark on Mickey too don't they?

2019-07-25 17:52:12 UTC  

yeah

2019-07-25 17:52:35 UTC  

but there's no trademark infringement I believe

2019-07-25 17:52:43 UTC  

like there is for copyright infringement

2019-07-25 17:53:25 UTC  

if someone uses it they just sue don't they?
I know trademarks do have a higher expectation of defence on the owner's part

2019-07-25 17:53:45 UTC  

I go apeshit for cape shit.

2019-07-25 17:55:26 UTC  

so you can use the Superman S in stuff without getting sued, so I think you can use the name and visage of "mickey mouse" in your own art but not as it pertains to the disney logo

2019-07-25 17:55:54 UTC  

disney logo doesn't have mickey mouse in it anyway, its the castle with tinkerbell flying in an arc over it

2019-07-25 17:57:41 UTC  

I think Mickey's name is trademarked

2019-07-25 17:58:37 UTC  

so in theory you could remake Steamboat willy but not call the character Mickey I guess

2019-07-25 17:58:45 UTC  

yeah or the inverse

2019-07-25 17:58:47 UTC  

although I don't think he even goes by Mickey in that short

2019-07-25 18:05:14 UTC  

eh, I'm not an entertainment lawyer

2019-07-25 18:08:56 UTC  

I'm not saying they can't make good movies by making MANY movies, but I can certainly see where the industry is going. Is Star Wars 'good' right now? Did them pumping out those movies fair well? What does it look like for the future of the MCU? The casting of Ariel, etc etc etc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/604012223488327697/unknown.png

2019-07-25 18:10:11 UTC  

a bit soon to call it for the MCU phase 4, they're coming off the backs of some massive wins

2019-07-25 18:10:31 UTC  

maybe they can do what the comics couldn't and make the all new all different stuff work

2019-07-25 18:10:43 UTC  

I wasn't calling you out @RuRu I was just speaking in general, I like you

2019-07-25 18:10:54 UTC  

nono, you're fine. Just sayin

2019-07-25 18:12:17 UTC  

hopefully they will still keep using the Russos going forward
if Disney were smart they'd put them on Captain Marvel 2 assuming that it's still going to be a thing

2019-07-25 18:12:22 UTC  

It's perfectly fine to hold out optimism for good films. I'm far less so with Disney. They're too deep into pandering, and far to risk adverse to take any real chances on new stories

2019-07-25 18:12:41 UTC  

the Russos said they were moving on to other non-disney projects

2019-07-25 18:13:34 UTC  

we'll see I guess, Disney are sure to throw around some crazy money for them in the future

2019-07-25 18:14:11 UTC  

tangentially related, I can't think of the last time I was excited for a movie or show. video game yes, everything else no.

2019-07-25 18:14:11 UTC  

So about what I wrote earlier: Petra Kelly was a prominent Green Party politician who was involved in the founding of the green party and protests against the stationing of nuclear weapons in Germany. She was later shot by her boyfriend Gert Bastian a former green party politician who was involved in the same causes as her. (Protest against nuclear weapons in Germany or the peace movement). He commited suicide after killing her before Stasi files could reveal his role as an east German spy.

2019-07-25 18:14:14 UTC  

He was also a member of Generals for peace, a group of nato generals involved in the peace movement who were getting money from the Stasi. That peacemovement which opposed american missiles in Germany was not only supported by east Germany, but was the movement which later gave rise to the greens.