Message from @Clive

Discord ID: 604007111055245321


2019-07-25 17:44:25 UTC  

Disney doesn't compete with its own movies

2019-07-25 17:44:27 UTC  

they're potentially cannibalising themselves putting Lion King against Far from home

2019-07-25 17:44:40 UTC  

normies don't think "should I see Spider-Man OR Lion King?" they see both

2019-07-25 17:44:44 UTC  

at the same time as Toy Story 4 too

2019-07-25 17:44:48 UTC  

that too

2019-07-25 17:44:57 UTC  

wait

2019-07-25 17:45:01 UTC  

WAHT TOY STORY 4

2019-07-25 17:45:03 UTC  

And now we have the slowest box office in 2 decades

2019-07-25 17:45:06 UTC  

what rock have i been living under

2019-07-25 17:45:29 UTC  

I've been living under the rock known as work

2019-07-25 17:45:42 UTC  

I saw a kid on the bus the other day with a Sporky toy and it got me thinking how that would work within the universe

2019-07-25 17:45:45 UTC  

Disney is like those giant irons from FLCL. Just sterilizing everything so we're all dumb paypigs for shit entertainment

2019-07-25 17:45:52 UTC  

what happens to toys of toys story characters?

2019-07-25 17:46:10 UTC  

especially ones that professionally made toy versions of amateur toys

2019-07-25 17:46:41 UTC  

eh if they make good stuff I'll watch it, if not I won't same rule as always for me

2019-07-25 17:47:09 UTC  

mass quantity doesn't necessarily mean low quality

2019-07-25 17:47:12 UTC  

but I doubt they'll see big returns for long if they flood with 3 remakes a year

2019-07-25 17:47:45 UTC  

they used to do remakes/sequels to hold onto rights but Lion King was probably 80+ years away from that

2019-07-25 17:48:13 UTC  

is the profit from the remakes more than what they'd get for a remaster release?

2019-07-25 17:48:17 UTC  

Disney now has until 2023 to figure out how to extend that date once again. Enter Steamboat Willy, the first Mickey Mouse cartoon and the first animated short by Walt Disney in 1928. Under the 1909 Copyright scheme, the Mickey Mouse character had copyright protection for 56 years (with the renewal), expiring in 1984

2019-07-25 17:48:37 UTC  

Mickey Mouse as Public Domain?!!??! NAY SAY DIZNAY

2019-07-25 17:49:42 UTC  

hmm I'd imagine some non disney cartoons would be pushing into public domain by now like Little Lulu or Felix

2019-07-25 17:51:21 UTC  

they still have a trademark on Mickey too don't they?

2019-07-25 17:52:12 UTC  

yeah

2019-07-25 17:52:35 UTC  

but there's no trademark infringement I believe

2019-07-25 17:52:43 UTC  

like there is for copyright infringement

2019-07-25 17:53:25 UTC  

if someone uses it they just sue don't they?
I know trademarks do have a higher expectation of defence on the owner's part

2019-07-25 17:53:45 UTC  

I go apeshit for cape shit.

2019-07-25 17:55:26 UTC  

so you can use the Superman S in stuff without getting sued, so I think you can use the name and visage of "mickey mouse" in your own art but not as it pertains to the disney logo

2019-07-25 17:55:54 UTC  

disney logo doesn't have mickey mouse in it anyway, its the castle with tinkerbell flying in an arc over it

2019-07-25 17:57:41 UTC  

I think Mickey's name is trademarked

2019-07-25 17:58:37 UTC  

so in theory you could remake Steamboat willy but not call the character Mickey I guess

2019-07-25 17:58:45 UTC  

yeah or the inverse

2019-07-25 17:58:47 UTC  

although I don't think he even goes by Mickey in that short

2019-07-25 18:05:14 UTC  

eh, I'm not an entertainment lawyer

2019-07-25 18:08:56 UTC  

I'm not saying they can't make good movies by making MANY movies, but I can certainly see where the industry is going. Is Star Wars 'good' right now? Did them pumping out those movies fair well? What does it look like for the future of the MCU? The casting of Ariel, etc etc etc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/604012223488327697/unknown.png

2019-07-25 18:10:11 UTC  

a bit soon to call it for the MCU phase 4, they're coming off the backs of some massive wins

2019-07-25 18:10:31 UTC  

maybe they can do what the comics couldn't and make the all new all different stuff work

2019-07-25 18:10:43 UTC  

I wasn't calling you out @RuRu I was just speaking in general, I like you

2019-07-25 18:10:54 UTC  

nono, you're fine. Just sayin

2019-07-25 18:12:17 UTC  

hopefully they will still keep using the Russos going forward
if Disney were smart they'd put them on Captain Marvel 2 assuming that it's still going to be a thing