Message from @FrostyCrits

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2019-08-05 03:57:14 UTC  

they cant really make life decisions

2019-08-05 03:57:24 UTC  

For all legal intents and purposes they were. The only thing holding them back were physical limitations.

2019-08-05 03:57:57 UTC  

Are 20 year old midgets not real men?

2019-08-05 03:58:06 UTC  

Youre not a man if you arent allowed to purchase alcohol because that would be bad for you

2019-08-05 03:58:26 UTC  

You can if you hop over to Mexico or Canada.

2019-08-05 03:58:50 UTC  

@scaevola having a limit to the age at which you can buy alchohol isn't arbitrary.

2019-08-05 03:58:50 UTC  

The market will determine the minimum wage. More jobs = less workers meaning places will have to pay more to get the good employees

2019-08-05 03:59:01 UTC  

The age you get your rights is.

2019-08-05 03:59:24 UTC  

Just because alchohol would damage your development doesn't mean you can't be held to a high standard of responsibility

2019-08-05 03:59:27 UTC  

the right to buy and do what you want

2019-08-05 03:59:33 UTC  

Booze and cigs aren't rights - if I had my way, the age for those would be 25

2019-08-05 03:59:37 UTC  

Alchohol isn't a human right.

2019-08-05 04:00:23 UTC  

they did need an ammendment when they wanted adults to be prohibited from buying it

2019-08-05 04:00:56 UTC  

Prohibition was terrible, and resulted in the NFA

2019-08-05 04:01:05 UTC  

^

2019-08-05 04:01:13 UTC  

you have a right, as an adult to spend the money you earn on everything you want if it doesnt hurt others directly

2019-08-05 04:02:01 UTC  

Thats not true.

2019-08-05 04:02:15 UTC  

I can't hire an illegal immigrant to mow my lawn

2019-08-05 04:02:15 UTC  

alcohol is not a right, but it falls under liberty and the pursuit of property

2019-08-05 04:02:27 UTC  

same as any product

2019-08-05 04:02:41 UTC  

Goods and Services are not a human right

2019-08-05 04:02:50 UTC  

The question there, then, is whether you have a right to self harm?

2019-08-05 04:02:59 UTC  

no one is saying that tho @FrostyCrits

2019-08-05 04:03:05 UTC  

they are not saying they are entitled to it

2019-08-05 04:03:12 UTC  

that would mean they dont have to pay for it

2019-08-05 04:03:23 UTC  

Either way, there is a logical reason why people under the age of 25 shouldn't be drinking alchohol.

2019-08-05 04:03:41 UTC  

There isn't any reason we shouldn't be expecting more of young men and women

2019-08-05 04:03:43 UTC  

there is a logical reason why noone should drink alcohol

2019-08-05 04:03:52 UTC  

or eat pizza

2019-08-05 04:04:01 UTC  

or anything else fun

2019-08-05 04:04:04 UTC  

Telling people they can't do something just makes them want to do it more

2019-08-05 04:04:13 UTC  

also true

2019-08-05 04:04:20 UTC  

There is specific developmental harm to drinking alchohol before your mind has finished maturing

2019-08-05 04:04:36 UTC  

is it governments role to be a nanny tho?

2019-08-05 04:04:39 UTC  

It's not a general "it's bad for you"

2019-08-05 04:04:56 UTC  

No, but society makes certain rules to protect each other

2019-08-05 04:05:11 UTC  

If it comes down to a question between personal freedom and having a nanny state, I will choose personal freedom every time

2019-08-05 04:05:19 UTC  

thats too broad @DJ_Anuz

2019-08-05 04:05:24 UTC  

agreed spanners

2019-08-05 04:05:24 UTC  

But it's not black and white

2019-08-05 04:05:30 UTC  

So why do you have the right to destroy your body after that? Who are you to determine which amount of self harm is accaptable and which one isnt?