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Someone help me out here flat tax just means a flat percent right? So if it was 12% or something, everyone pays 12% of their income. If that's right the hell is a progressive tax and how does it work?

It doesn't

@Draco552 a progressive tax means that you pay a certain rate on your first $XX,XXX, then a higher rate on your next $XX,XXX, and a higher rate on the next level, and so on.

Sounds extremely dumb

Until you reach whatever the max rate is for that particular system and you pay that on all money above that rate.

Eh, it's not the worst system as long as the top rate isn't too high.

There is logic to it.

It's certainly more complicated than a flat tax

but a flat tax is more complicated than a poll tax and most people don't want to go back to that

Except when you get the progressives that say there's a cap on how much someone is allowed to make. The whole "make the rich pay their fair share" line

You mean like this?

Which I literally capped about 20 minutes ago?

yeah, pretty much

spooky

I've been mining Hasan Piker's server today

That server felt like drinking a gallon of brain hurting juice

Thing is, I can't tell if that cap is satirical or real thinking

He's certainly defending it when challenged

"Oh muh capitalist tears"

I need Snopes to weigh in on this one

"Won't somebody think of the poor capitalists"

Out of curiosity, how is a flat tax more complicated? Seems like it would be simpler than the progressive tax as it's the same math but less times

Flat tax would be simpler although deductions is really what complicates tax code

Flat tax is more complicated than poll tax @Draco552

poll tax means $XX per person, regardless of income

Ok, I misunderstood what you were saying there

In a sense it is even more "fair" than the Fair Tax because it doesn't test for means. Everyone has the same obligation.

But I wouldn't want that system.

Is poll tax like the temple tax or something? You just pay a set amount annually?

It is fair. Just not the kind of fair I'd like when collector's come knocking

Everyone's a libertarian come tax season

Down with the IRS!

I just feel like if the government isn't sending me a bill, calculating what I owe should be extremely simple

Dank.

Taxes based on use of government services makes the most sense to me, for example I'm fine with toll roads if all that money is just for roads and that's all the money that goes towards roads. I suppose stuff like fire and police and military would theoretically be a flat rate but you could tie it to the amount of property you have or something. This doesn't account for redistributive programs at all, which I would prefer to not have partially for this reason.

Tax/funding handling needs to be improved too.

I was in an environmental studies class (gen eds woo) and my teacher said he would like something like that with gas

Put the taxes that pay for roads into the cost for gas so that people that drive more pay for the roads more