Message from @Draco552

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2019-08-23 03:57:39 UTC  

I need Snopes to weigh in on this one

2019-08-23 03:57:43 UTC  

"Won't somebody think of the poor capitalists"

2019-08-23 03:59:45 UTC  

Out of curiosity, how is a flat tax more complicated? Seems like it would be simpler than the progressive tax as it's the same math but less times

2019-08-23 04:00:35 UTC  

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2019-08-23 04:00:43 UTC  

Flat tax would be simpler although deductions is really what complicates tax code

2019-08-23 04:00:48 UTC  

Flat tax is more complicated than poll tax @Draco552

2019-08-23 04:01:00 UTC  

poll tax means $XX per person, regardless of income

2019-08-23 04:01:05 UTC  

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2019-08-23 04:01:09 UTC  

Ok, I misunderstood what you were saying there

2019-08-23 04:01:39 UTC  

In a sense it is even more "fair" than the Fair Tax because it doesn't test for means. Everyone has the same obligation.

2019-08-23 04:01:46 UTC  

But I wouldn't want that system.

2019-08-23 04:02:11 UTC  

Is poll tax like the temple tax or something? You just pay a set amount annually?

2019-08-23 04:03:00 UTC  

It is fair. Just not the kind of fair I'd like when collector's come knocking

2019-08-23 04:03:20 UTC  

Everyone's a libertarian come tax season

2019-08-23 04:03:52 UTC  

Down with the IRS!

2019-08-23 04:05:49 UTC  

I just feel like if the government isn't sending me a bill, calculating what I owe should be extremely simple

2019-08-23 04:08:05 UTC  

Dank.

2019-08-23 04:08:08 UTC  

Taxes based on use of government services makes the most sense to me, for example I'm fine with toll roads if all that money is just for roads and that's all the money that goes towards roads. I suppose stuff like fire and police and military would theoretically be a flat rate but you could tie it to the amount of property you have or something. This doesn't account for redistributive programs at all, which I would prefer to not have partially for this reason.

2019-08-23 04:09:44 UTC  

Tax/funding handling needs to be improved too.

2019-08-23 04:09:48 UTC  

I was in an environmental studies class (gen eds woo) and my teacher said he would like something like that with gas

2019-08-23 04:10:39 UTC  

Put the taxes that pay for roads into the cost for gas so that people that drive more pay for the roads more

2019-08-23 04:11:26 UTC  

Doesn't account for fuel efficiency but I guess that's what he wants

2019-08-23 04:11:34 UTC  

😢

2019-08-23 04:11:55 UTC  

If the government only spends within its means, then what good is congress?

2019-08-23 04:12:05 UTC  

they'd have nothing left to do

2019-08-23 04:12:25 UTC  

That's already what they do 90% of the time

2019-08-23 04:12:47 UTC  

The other 10% is spend more money that doesn't exist

2019-08-23 04:13:01 UTC  

My problem with it is that bikes use the roads too, but they don't use gas, so some of that tax would also have to be put into the cost of bikes (or bike tires). And that's also a good point on fuel efficiency

2019-08-23 04:13:51 UTC  

Bikes obviously cause less wear and tear on asphalt but still

2019-08-23 04:14:13 UTC  

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2019-08-23 04:14:38 UTC  

I would probably charge different amounts for different vehicles since semis put a lot more wear on a road than a sedan, so bikes would probably be dirt cheap but not nothing

2019-08-23 04:14:47 UTC  

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2019-08-23 04:14:58 UTC  

lol

2019-08-23 04:15:03 UTC  

*it just works!*

2019-08-23 04:15:25 UTC  

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2019-08-23 04:15:50 UTC  

It's literally their straw man of the invisible hand but their argument now

2019-08-23 04:16:13 UTC  

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2019-08-23 04:16:19 UTC  

straw mirror?

2019-08-23 04:16:40 UTC  

Stop drinking the brain-hurty juice @uncephalized it ain't worth it

2019-08-23 04:16:55 UTC  

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2019-08-23 04:17:05 UTC  

I am just about done @Draco552