Message from @uncephalized

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2019-10-05 19:58:10 UTC  

man, I was going to say exhaust, but that's not necessarily true. That one stumps me.

2019-10-05 19:58:16 UTC  

I don’t know anything about electrical physics. Never had to take a class on it.

2019-10-05 19:58:19 UTC  

Lol

2019-10-05 19:58:38 UTC  

The part of the wheel that is lower than the top surface of the rail

2019-10-05 19:58:45 UTC  

^

2019-10-05 19:59:02 UTC  

No, that's moving with the tracks

2019-10-05 19:59:05 UTC  

@GrumpyGabe gets a smartboi prize.

2019-10-05 19:59:10 UTC  

That’s more of a trick question. Lol

2019-10-05 19:59:25 UTC  

Not the flange that's lower than the surface of the rail @Jeremy-Retard

2019-10-05 19:59:39 UTC  

Think about it a minute

2019-10-05 19:59:41 UTC  

flange that's lower than the surface of the rail...

2019-10-05 19:59:45 UTC  

Train wheels have a part that runs on the inside of the track, lower than the surface, to keep it on the track.

2019-10-05 20:00:07 UTC  

that's still, angular wise, in step with the ground.

2019-10-05 20:00:13 UTC  

not moving backward w.r.t. the ground.

2019-10-05 20:00:20 UTC  

Nope.

2019-10-05 20:01:01 UTC  

explain

2019-10-05 20:01:25 UTC  

The axle is moving forward at the speed of the train, all points between the axle and point of contact with the rail are moving between train speed and zero.

2019-10-05 20:01:52 UTC  

Depends what you're measuring, but if you put a dot on the outermost point of the wheel, there will be a point in its rotation where that dot will be moving backward relative to the ground.

2019-10-05 20:02:09 UTC  

Points on the wheel with radius farther out than the point of rail contact move backwards with respect to the rail and the ground when they are underneath the rail surface.

2019-10-05 20:03:01 UTC  

That's impossible though, it's instantenous linear velocity might be faster than the forward motion of the train, but angularly it's not moving any faster than the contact point. That's more of a mathematical anomaly due to a higher radius.

2019-10-05 20:03:17 UTC  

Talking about the track-axis linear component of the motion.

2019-10-05 20:03:43 UTC  

I didn't say angular motion, I said "backwards with respect to the ground"

2019-10-05 20:03:49 UTC  

But it's not moving linearly.

2019-10-05 20:04:01 UTC  

A component of its motion is.

2019-10-05 20:04:16 UTC  

debatable, it's a circle.

2019-10-05 20:04:21 UTC  

And at its lowest point its entire motion vector points straight backward.

2019-10-05 20:04:23 UTC  

You wouldn't describe it's motion as linear

2019-10-05 20:04:54 UTC  

Ok, we can nitpick on that point but it's still kind of neat.

2019-10-05 20:05:09 UTC  

that's more of a riddle

2019-10-05 20:05:28 UTC  

If a pebble stuck on that part of the wheel came unstuck at that moment it would in fact fly backward.

2019-10-05 20:05:36 UTC  

Yes.

2019-10-05 20:05:50 UTC  

I said it was just for fun :-)

2019-10-05 20:05:54 UTC  

Yes, but that's a translation event, the motion it's experiencing translates.

2019-10-05 20:06:38 UTC  

translation isn't the right word.

2019-10-05 20:06:45 UTC  

It's just a neat kinematics riddle bud.

2019-10-05 20:06:54 UTC  

ya.

2019-10-05 20:06:57 UTC  

fine.

2019-10-05 20:06:59 UTC  

got me.

2019-10-05 20:07:08 UTC  

The kind of thing us lowly engineers love ;-)

2019-10-05 20:08:01 UTC  

I've turned myself into more of an electrical engineer than I started off as.

2019-10-05 20:08:24 UTC  

Oh yeah? What kind of physics do you do?