Oh horsepower I feel dumb
Lol
Yea
Speshul boy
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407989900881952771/630559603658194944/GET_THE_50.mp4
When you have Vietnam flashbacks on the construction site
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGPuCZpWwAAH2q1?format=jpg&name=medium
This is a reminder of how firearm technology has increased or stagnated?
Stagnation, I think
Yeah probably
Wasn't the last time a country put out a weapon trial was the OICW program? They got a cool grenade launcher out of that, but they cancelled the associated assault rifle.
I haven't kept up with that sort of thing
https://twitter.com/SouthPark/status/1181273539799736320
when a weapon works well, im not sure i see the need it altering too much
We've been arguing whether the M16 actually works well since we introduced it
hmmm
no comment
It didn’t originally when we used to Nam
As with anything
It works well with maintenance
The soldiers thought it was self cleaning
I still much prefer the M4 though
Yeah, Mattel
I think changing to the M4 and not changing the ammo for such a long time created its own set of problems
was it really suitable for the evironments of vietnam?
Probably not they were fighting people with aks
It's still suitable in Philippine environments, so... I'll have to go with yes
Let me rephrase
We didn’t give our soldiers a good hand going into that conflict
Bad tactics and policy fucked Vietnam
Not the tooks
Tools*
True but having good tools does help
fair enough
The Jews beat AK's with fucken submachine guns ffs
I suppose the more relevant argument today isn't the M16/M4 itself, but rather the choice of ammo
No, for sure
Is there a current list of contenders for the replacement cartridge?
But I don't think the idea of "the M16 is a shit gun" explains away the fact that they weren't cared for properly
