@Salacious Swanky Cat She said she's forgotten it all lol. It was a decade ago.

@yuma_8 ok.

@grant Good questions. I don't know.

I want you to convince me that it's a terrible idea.

A lot of problems come with the gate keepers.

It would effectively mean that the rich elite would have an outsized representation right?

I mean right now we see california letting non-citizens vote.

But I guess if someone paid only $1 based on their income, they're still eligible

@Salacious Swanky Cat are you sure? same number of votes if you paid a million versus if you paid $1 in taxes

@Salacious Swanky Cat It would be contingent on a flat tax system, so it's binary. You're either paying taxes or you're not.

Any system a person proposes has to take into account, anything they change having no negative effects is the least likely thing to happen. Whats more likely is it will cause a backfire making things worst. So you have to be very careful in the ideas people wish to change to.

These are things the founding fathers thought of and didn't add them, what they did do is give us one of the greatest documents ever made, that isn't perfect and needs great care in attempting to improve on it.

@yuma_8 @grant ok. Fair enough.

@Shadows I'm actually quite sad that it still stands as the best governing document. It means we really haven't made as much progress as we'd probably like to think.

Progress isn't a straight line, it has ups and downs.
But would you say the same about the bible?

yes

but maybe that's just our limitations humans

The one thing we can never get away from.

Yes. There are limitations that come from being human.

The difference between all good and basically good is inherently evil. The left doesn’t understand this.

talking about the constitution reminds me that Ginsburg pointed to the south African constitution as a better model than the US contitution.

Lmao

By the way, I'm not saying we should discard those documents or that their bad. But we should have new documents that take all the good things from them and improve. The constitution drew from past documents and tried to improve upon them.

Problem is, the only “improvement” people have been clamouring for is related to the general welfare bullshit

And it’s definitely not for the better

And we have made the constitution better since then and in some places worst (that's why i said it has ups and downs).

@Deleted User That's why they're regressives.

Yee doggie.

They done sure made it worse now.

For taxes, I would love to see a flat tax for all with zero deductions. I would also accept the abolishment of the income tax in favor or a national sales tax. Though any changes to taxes is a moot point due to the complete ineptness of Congress to pass a reasonable budget.

Making a better tax system would be nice, and i might have to think about it more. But i think i favor a flat tax.

Flat tax sounds like the best system to me. Technically speaking it is the "fairest" tax system, just not the kind of fair, the progressives are rambling on about!

this story will be interesting to watch....https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/08/us/los-angeles-teachers-strike/index.html

hahahahahaha He wants to use 100 million $ to cover 600k people....Thats 166$ per year per person.....he is so off in his math he would likely need 2-3 billion at least....https://abc7ny.com/politics/mayor-de-blasio-announces-health-care-for-all-nyc-residents/5034167/

Its nothing new that most of them don't know how to math.

On the plus side, if they are also playing for undocumented immigrants, maybe we could get some better numbers on how many there are in NYC

I don't think it will happen De Blasio is running for re-election and I think this is just to distract the Progressives of NYC to vote for him cause they hate him over the Amazon HQ stuff...

Ya, none of this will work, was just a wonder heh

They will test it for a bit, run out of money and have to beg for more, or close the program.

Depends on what is being counted under healthcare
*you'll never have to buy Buckleys again bro*

I also don't think he can do it just from the Mayors office....Seems like this would be such a big decision the City Council would need to vote on it...

After reading that article about the teachers union strike, I've never been as big a supporter of scabs as I am right now.