Message from @Lord Zedd
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it's basically free money for the schools - people want to go into game development because it looks like a dream job from the outside
hell, at my college, we had an issue where the administration team bloated the number of slots year after year
by the time i graduated, it got to the point where there weren't enough professors to actually teach all of the core classes on a consistent basis
there were some courses that were REQUIRED for the degree that would be taught once a year
teacher turn over was crazy too
I changed main teacher 4 times in 6 months
(and they would fill up within a few minutes of registration being open)
I took a "game engineering" degree. We had 50% dropout rate *every year* because people just decided that programming was too hard
that wasn't a problem at my college. All of the professors that were there, had been there since the game design masters degree was going on at the college, which was about 4 or 5 years before I started college
sounds about right
it was really sad the principal of the college basically said he didn't want to be there during our orientation and begged if any of us knew of a job
he ended up leaving 2 months later 😄
i think the school is shut down now, a complete shit show
@C1PHER There was a rumor that my degree had the highest dropout rate in the college. In one of our first courses with the guy that was the head of the department, he admitted to spreading that rumor himself to scare off people that didn't actually want to do work 😛
lol
lol
I've never really studied programming, always seemed weird to learn it from someone else I've always just learned that shit on my own
probably why I suck at it 😄
it's similar to learning a new language, honestly. If you do well learning languages on your own, yeah - learning programming on your own would probably just work out better
We may have legit had the highest dropout rate. Started with 90+ freshman wanting to make vidya games and ended with maybe 10 graduates. Results in some fairly competent engineers, but even then the industry expects you to be an absolute master for terrible hours and mediocre pay, so most of us just go into regular tech jobs anyway
I don't think I retain that kind of information well from being taught classically, I used to have a php class, and I can't remember a thing of php
yeah the real money is always in regular tech and support stuff, too much demand in gaming drives down wages
Data structures is where the real important stuff is.
learning a programming language after your first is trivial
especially if its the same programming paradigm
I learned Actionscript back in the day....
really thought that'd pay off
SE work depends heavily on where you are and who you're working for. It does feel somewhat undervalued though
😄
lol raspakr
radspakr
I did love Flash though, such a shame it died out
thats why its important to network beemann
yeah, there were some crazy talented people in my program that actually went into game development. The rest of us went elsewhere in the tech industry
like, I know one guy that ended up being an assistant producer at bungie. He's still there, afaik
i have friends who want to get into it that are working on transfering. imo the money is garbage and not worth it
i'm right in that middle ground art/programming side of things strictly design basically useless outside of that specific sphere
lowest paid software devs
right next to lower end web devs
there are still web devs?
yup
I thought they all got outsourced to pakistan