@C1PHER There was a rumor that my degree had the highest dropout rate in the college. In one of our first courses with the guy that was the head of the department, he admitted to spreading that rumor himself to scare off people that didn't actually want to do work 😛

lol

lol

I've never really studied programming, always seemed weird to learn it from someone else I've always just learned that shit on my own

probably why I suck at it 😄

it's similar to learning a new language, honestly. If you do well learning languages on your own, yeah - learning programming on your own would probably just work out better

We may have legit had the highest dropout rate. Started with 90+ freshman wanting to make vidya games and ended with maybe 10 graduates. Results in some fairly competent engineers, but even then the industry expects you to be an absolute master for terrible hours and mediocre pay, so most of us just go into regular tech jobs anyway

I don't think I retain that kind of information well from being taught classically, I used to have a php class, and I can't remember a thing of php

yeah the real money is always in regular tech and support stuff, too much demand in gaming drives down wages

Data structures is where the real important stuff is.

learning a programming language after your first is trivial

especially if its the same programming paradigm

I learned Actionscript back in the day....

really thought that'd pay off

SE work depends heavily on where you are and who you're working for. It does feel somewhat undervalued though

😄

lol raspakr

radspakr

I did love Flash though, such a shame it died out

thats why its important to network beemann

yeah, there were some crazy talented people in my program that actually went into game development. The rest of us went elsewhere in the tech industry

like, I know one guy that ended up being an assistant producer at bungie. He's still there, afaik

i have friends who want to get into it that are working on transfering. imo the money is garbage and not worth it

i'm right in that middle ground art/programming side of things strictly design basically useless outside of that specific sphere

lowest paid software devs

right next to lower end web devs

there are still web devs?

yup

I thought they all got outsourced to pakistan

they call them "full stack" now

aka they do EVERYTHING now for the same pay

customer facing and backend

i dont want to get into that either lol, for the same reasons

yeah pretty much how it was when I was learning you HAD to know HTML, Javascript, asp, CSS,PHP...

systems/applications is where its at

but still only get a little over min wage

oh and photoshop

yup yup

but thats what all the bootcamps cater towards

oh hey, speaking of Captain Marvel and stupidity

https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/is-captain-marvel-military-propaganda/