Message from @Lord Zedd

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2019-03-07 19:25:36 UTC  

those were fine movies

2019-03-07 19:25:53 UTC  

They really weren't. They were incredibly boring, formulaic movies

2019-03-07 19:26:01 UTC  

for you

2019-03-07 19:26:04 UTC  

Thor had a follow up that was even more boring than the first

2019-03-07 19:27:19 UTC  

Dark World I get it was rather bland, Marvel hadn't really found their voice at that point

2019-03-07 19:27:45 UTC  

the early movies played it safe

2019-03-07 19:28:00 UTC  

MCU is primarily held up by a handful of movies, one of which is over 10 years old now

2019-03-07 19:28:09 UTC  

And that was still quite formulaic

2019-03-07 19:28:38 UTC  

being formulaic isn't much of a criticism though

2019-03-07 19:28:41 UTC  

It's maybe the most blatant attempt at a money printer in modern film

2019-03-07 19:28:51 UTC  

It means I can predict everything that will happen in your movie

2019-03-07 19:28:52 UTC  

the hero's journey is standard for a reason

2019-03-07 19:29:01 UTC  

Thus reducing the necessity of viewing

2019-03-07 19:29:12 UTC  

I wonder if you've seen the more recent stuff

2019-03-07 19:29:35 UTC  

Last ones I saw were Thor Ragnarok and Guardians 2

2019-03-07 19:29:47 UTC  

They were okay

2019-03-07 19:31:29 UTC  

Guardians feels like it's already being constricted by the film format. Thor 3 is like, bits of planet hulk and guardians smushed in when I'd really much rather just get Planet Hulk (seriously, there's been no new attempt at Hulk standalone content)

2019-03-07 19:31:59 UTC  

Hulk is in a weird situation rights wise

2019-03-07 19:32:21 UTC  

Marvel own the licence but universal own distribution

2019-03-07 19:32:26 UTC  

on solo stuff

2019-03-07 19:32:44 UTC  

so they split a Hulk story between multiple movies

2019-03-07 19:33:04 UTC  

Age of Ultron, Ragnarok, Infinity War and Endgame

2019-03-07 19:33:21 UTC  

Yeah, Hulk is currently on a little arc throughout all the recent movies

2019-03-07 19:33:33 UTC  

honestly Planet Hulk wouldn't really work well within the MCU

2019-03-07 19:33:40 UTC  

it'd essentially be an entirely CGI movie

2019-03-07 19:34:04 UTC  

Isn't that what half of them are slowly turning into?

2019-03-07 19:34:14 UTC  

and then how do you handle World War Hulk?

2019-03-07 19:35:00 UTC  

You don't, just like how "Civil War" went nowhere and did nothing

2019-03-07 19:35:13 UTC  

I'm wondering how the franchise will feel after Endgame. It's going to be a reboot of sorts.

2019-03-07 19:35:15 UTC  

did nothing?

2019-03-07 19:35:23 UTC  

it broke up the Avengers they're still broken up

2019-03-07 19:35:45 UTC  

They're referencing a larger conflict that would be its own film series

2019-03-07 19:35:48 UTC  

Cap and Tony haven't spoken since

2019-03-07 19:35:51 UTC  

Yeah it impacted things on a cosmic scale haha

2019-03-07 19:35:57 UTC  

For a handful of people having a spat

2019-03-07 19:36:18 UTC  

honestly compared to the comic event, the movie one was better

2019-03-07 19:36:29 UTC  

They're clearly not opposed to scaling down and rewriting

2019-03-07 19:36:43 UTC  

the movies didn't have to deus ex machina out a bunch of decisions made for that event weeks later

2019-03-07 19:37:05 UTC  

They'll have to asspull for the next Avengers though

2019-03-07 19:38:01 UTC  

When you have a franchise that is on rails by design, there's not too much flexibility

2019-03-07 19:38:33 UTC  

also when you're missing a good chunk of the Marvel characters too